Midwest Casinos
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Midwest areas you are stuck to are basically Minnesota and Michigan. I'm turning 21 in august and before that I usually go up to a place in Minnesota where I had a 1-16 bet spread and didn't get much heat, but I attribute it to being a very talkative person at the table and with the pit bosses and being very casual.
The midwest is pretty consistent -- 6 deck, varying degress of penetration DOA DAS split 3 no Surrender Dealer hits soft 17
However, Notable exceptions include Mystic Lake which has some of the best penetration I have seen along with 2 4 6 and 8 deck games. Rules vary, though.
Also, Ameristar in outside of St. Louis has a good double deck game, so does Meskwaki in Iowa.
However, Notable exceptions include Mystic Lake which has some of the best penetration I have seen along with 2 4 6 and 8 deck games. Rules vary, though.
Also, Ameristar in outside of St. Louis has a good double deck game, so does Meskwaki in Iowa.
depends on your betting level, but mystic lake is pretty good. and 6 deck you can find amazing penetration or 5.5/6 decks being dealt out if you search for the right dealers.
it's h17 though, of the top it's -.66 acording to the BS charts. But heat isn't really an issue unless u find the one pitboss who knows what he's doing.
it's h17 though, of the top it's -.66 acording to the BS charts. But heat isn't really an issue unless u find the one pitboss who knows what he's doing.
Year and a half ago, I noticed Ameristar STL cutting off exactly one deck from their two deck games, and also barring midshoe entry. Seemed pretty crappy. They did deal from a shoe, though.
It was, however, where I had my first win over $100 counting, so it will always have a special place in my heart
It was, however, where I had my first win over $100 counting, so it will always have a special place in my heart
the 3 min is at a sister casino just down the road, and even then it's one table that is usually either full or they have it at a 5 min.
also it gets fairly difficult on the weekends to find a 5 or even 10$ min table.
tournaments u have to have a club card, and have accumulated enough points the be at the next level. If not I would be playing tournaments every chance they offered.
but still the pen is amazing.
Also it's H17 so be prepared for that.
I think Treasure Island somewhere in MN also has the same rules, not sure about pen though.
also it gets fairly difficult on the weekends to find a 5 or even 10$ min table.
tournaments u have to have a club card, and have accumulated enough points the be at the next level. If not I would be playing tournaments every chance they offered.
but still the pen is amazing.
Also it's H17 so be prepared for that.
I think Treasure Island somewhere in MN also has the same rules, not sure about pen though.
unless u count cards, 9/6 jacks or better video poker (pretty much the only video poker game left that is less than a .5% house edge) is better than any blackjack game that is worse than S17, DOA, DAS, 8decks, split to 4 hands.. so if u are playing worse rules than that, play jacks or better video poker instead, and go buy vpsm and bdwp.. most casinos have $.25 full pay jacks (also, jacks or better has very low volatility, and if u hit the royal u get $1000), an another thing, if u play $10 blackjack with the above rules, u will lose $3.50/hr @70 hands, and u will lose $3.13/hr @ 500 hands with the video poker
is anybody familiar with the games at harrahs outside of st. louis. i know they have DD games but they are in the high stakes room and start at $25 with 5 available seats. Anymore info before I make a stop in St. louis. What about the downtown games like Presidents or Casino Queen (Illinois side). I'll be there in a few weeks and i can get the scoop if anybodys interested
Info is a year old, but most of the casinos (Harrah's, Ameristar, Argosy) just have 6D H17 DAS (no surrender) out in the main areas. Ameristar had a couple of 2D (shoe) games with bad penetration and no mid-shoe entry.
The President was an amazing dump, and didn't seem to have much in the way of a good game.
I have read that Casino Queen actually offers a S17 game, but I never made it over to East St Louis.
The President was an amazing dump, and didn't seem to have much in the way of a good game.
I have read that Casino Queen actually offers a S17 game, but I never made it over to East St Louis.
Yeah dont let that fool you. $3 minimums are for those people who like to gamble at 8am-2pm monday-thursday, they're called retired people.
the majority of low level action is 6 deck with maybe 70-80% penetration...which is pretty decent but if you want to play outside of those hours listed above, you will be seated with 3 others per table at least. I love weekend nights, 7 people at a $5 6D table....you might as well play powerball.
if you want to get high end action, this is the casino in MN to hit up because you will blend in with a sea of high rollers compared to those dumps farther north. I seriously think they penetrate the deck at 50-60% in the high stakes, but I have been quite successful playing by myself, despite their attempts to tharwt 2D and 4D counters. Oh, and dont look for surrender on a table over $5 :laugh: Personally I dont think this casino has enough high action to accomidate weekend traffic from the Twin Cities. You will find 4,5,6 people at a $50 or $100 table at peak times, so I only vist if i happen to be out that way during a "slow" period of the week.
the majority of low level action is 6 deck with maybe 70-80% penetration...which is pretty decent but if you want to play outside of those hours listed above, you will be seated with 3 others per table at least. I love weekend nights, 7 people at a $5 6D table....you might as well play powerball.
if you want to get high end action, this is the casino in MN to hit up because you will blend in with a sea of high rollers compared to those dumps farther north. I seriously think they penetrate the deck at 50-60% in the high stakes, but I have been quite successful playing by myself, despite their attempts to tharwt 2D and 4D counters. Oh, and dont look for surrender on a table over $5 :laugh: Personally I dont think this casino has enough high action to accomidate weekend traffic from the Twin Cities. You will find 4,5,6 people at a $50 or $100 table at peak times, so I only vist if i happen to be out that way during a "slow" period of the week.