How do you take advantge of great Pen?

[21forme]

A dealer was consistently cutting 1/2-3/4 of a deck out of a 6 deck shoe. Unfortunately, after 4 or 5 shoes, I never hit a good count. This was at a NMS table, so I couldn't wong in until reshuffle, if I quit the shoe.

I'll keep an eye out for the dealer in the future, hoping to hit a good shoe. Am I missing any way to take advantage, besides just wait for a good count, when a dealer deeply cuts a shoe?

[Sonny]

Since it is a NMS game your best strategy is to sit back and wait for the good counts. You will see a lot more profitable hands with penetration that deep. There will still be some dry spells while you’re waiting, but don’t get discouraged. Normally about 1-in-5 shoes become positive so it’s very easy to sit for a while and not see anything good. This game could be a golden opportunity so be patient and stick it out.

-Sonny-

[Mimosine]

Originally Posted by Sonny

Since it is a NMS game your best strategy is to sit back and wait for the good counts. You will see a lot more profitable hands with penetration that deep. There will still be some dry spells while you’re waiting, but don’t get discouraged. Normally about 1-in-5 shoes become positive so it’s very easy to sit for a while and not see anything good. This game could be a golden opportunity so be patient and stick it out.

-Sonny-

Agreed!

i often play through shoes because where i play has a limitted number of tables. and i can easily go 2-3 shoes without seeing anything worthwhile. sad, but true. but 1/2 deck cutoff is insane! where i play we have about 1 deck cutoff which is around 80% pen, which can get really good - if you wait it out.

[rogue1]

21forme-
if you're getting that kind of pen just keep playing-great things WILL happen.

[21forme]

When I first saw that cut card go in, my mouth dropped. I certainly will look for her next time I'm there and hang in there for a positive count. This morning the problem was I had to get home for work. SHame how that gets in the way of things...

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by Mimosine

i often play through shoes because where i play has a limitted number of tables. and i can easily go 2-3 shoes without seeing anything worthwhile. sad, but true. but 1/2 deck cutoff is insane! where i play we have about 1 deck cutoff which is around 80% pen, which can get really good - if you wait it out.

I guess you could try, if conditions aren't crowded, leaving after 1.5 decks in neg counts since it's not that likely the count will change in time.

Just a general question for anyone, in say a 6 or 8 deck shoe, when do u wong out if u sat down. Like at what count after how many decks have been dealt?

[Tom007]

I mostly sit down on a new shoe and will tolerate a running count of -4 on the first deck, after that any true count of 0 or less I wong out.

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by Tom007

I mostly sit down on a new shoe and will tolerate a running count of -4 on the first deck, after that any true count of 0 or less I wong out.

Sounds reasonable to me - why hang around longer than you have to.

[bluewhale]

as soon as teh TC hits -1 i'm out.

[Mimosine]

Originally Posted by Kasi

I guess you could try, if conditions aren't crowded, leaving after 1.5 decks in neg counts since it's not that likely the count will change in time.

Just a general question for anyone, in say a 6 or 8 deck shoe, when do u wong out if u sat down. Like at what count after how many decks have been dealt?

following the guidelines in KO for 6D
IRC = -20
wong out after 1 deck RC = -22
2 decks RC = -17
3 decks RC = -12

in all cases the TC = -1.5