where to sit

#1
Just wondering anyone's thoughts on this.....When my husband and i go to play blackjack, should we sit together or apart? Usually, one of us wins and one of us loses. What do you think? We are only basic strategy players. I'm workin on the counting. Thanks, Shelly:)
 

Mikeaber

Well-Known Member
#2
Go to the table and sit wherever you feel comfortable and enjoy the experience Shelly. Statistically, it makes no difference where you sit. Being a beginner at the game, you might be a bit better off not sitting on first base, but only because they are the first to make a decision and sitting elsewhere will give you a bit more time to think about your play before comitting to it.
 

ZMan

Well-Known Member
#3
Mike makes a great point that I agree with about not sitting at first base because you don't have as much time to think about your initial decision (to hit, stand, split or double).

Lots of players will give the player at THIRD BASE lots of grief, dirty looks and snide remarks about things like taking the dealers bust card or messing up the flow of the cards EVEN WHEN YOU ARE PLAYING CORRECT BASIC STRATEGY. Of course, you shouldn't let these players get to ya. I was surprised to see this happen often. Seems lots of players think they know BJ but they really don't.

I like to sit in the middle (anywhere between first base and third base). It gives me a little extra time and you don't have to listen to people's complaints. Just know though that if you are next to third base and that player leaves, you BECOME the new third base.

I hope this helps.

And, by the way, I would say sit together...it's more fun.
 

rookie789

Well-Known Member
#6
Shelly,
when you start counting consider sitting 1st base, if you are sitting 3rd base a right handed dealer can shield other players hole cards from your view in a pitch game at the other end of the table even if unintentional.
 

E-town-guy

Well-Known Member
#7
rookie789 said:
Shelly,
when you start counting consider sitting 1st base, if you are sitting 3rd base a right handed dealer can shield other players hole cards from your view in a pitch game at the other end of the table even if unintentional.

I've never had this problem and to get a bit of extra time to count and make up your mind what you're going to do with your hand I wouldn't advise sitting at 1st base.
 
#8
Hi Everybody :)

I hope this finds you all well!

I am VERY NEW to all of this...

It seemes to me first base has always been a good seat for me. The other night I was in the center and it seemed that both first base and anchor were getting all the good hands and we in the center were losing a lot.

I am sure it was just the way the cards were falling.

Would you all think rookies should be in first base or someother position?

I try very hard to play staratgy, most of the time, and try to be careful not to "MESS UP THE CARDS" for others at the table. But after reading here I think my worries are unfounded.

any advice or comments will be appreciated!

Thank you all in advance

Pamelarose
 

Jeff Dubya

Well-Known Member
#10
pamelarose said:
It seemes to me first base has always been a good seat for me.
I don't believe in superstition... unless it's working for you

pamelarose said:
I try very hard to play staratgy, most of the time, and try to be careful not to "MESS UP THE CARDS" for others at the table.
Screw that. You play YOUR game and don't worry about other players, especially if you are playing solid basic strategy. I always keep my BS card handy and if somone gives me grief about my play, espescially if I am playing third, I just flip the card over to them and show then that my play is 100% accurate, unlike their own.

:) This works espescially well if my play is good and I am winning. If I made a bad move, I just apologize and let the game go on. Put bluntly, this isn't the WSB, and shit happens.

Take a look at this: http://renzey.casinocitytimes.com/article/can-bad-players-screw-up-your-game-1050
 
#11
shellychamplin said:
Just wondering anyone's thoughts on this.....When my husband and i go to play blackjack, should we sit together or apart? Usually, one of us wins and one of us loses. What do you think? We are only basic strategy players. I'm workin on the counting. Thanks, Shelly:)

That's illegal, and I'm telling!!!! lol ;)

I suggest one sit in front of the dealer, and the other sits in behind the dealer and makes faces.


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SkyBoy

Active Member
#12
seat is main factor to me. All the time, i sit at last base and play on 2 boxes (last and the one before). that give me the ability to control the table and make the table win.
 

Mikeaber

Well-Known Member
#13
SkyBoy said:
seat is main factor to me. All the time, i sit at last base and play on 2 boxes (last and the one before). that give me the ability to control the table and make the table win.
Trying to think of some highly intelligent comeback to SkyBoy, but at this point, I'm just too sleepy.
 

tedloc

Well-Known Member
#14
1st Base

Before I started counting cards, I would sit anyplace on the table and play my basic strategy. I now sit at first base. This is my reasoning. If the count is in my favor such as a +4. I want to be sure that I get my cards first. I have been at 3rd base with a +4 count, doubled my 6/5 vs. dealer 10 and then seen 5 face cards come out before it got to me.
 

KenSmith

Administrator
Staff member
#15
SkyBoy, there's plenty of explanation around here about why controlling the table from third base is all in your head. It just doesn't work that way.

Tedloc, sitting at first base doesn't help any for a counter, or any other kind of player. You're just as likely to get the good cards at third base as at first base. Consider those times when you're at third base, bet into a plus count, and the count gets even higher when the rest of the table draws small cards ahead of you. It all evens out.
 

SkyBoy

Active Member
#16
KenSmith said:
SkyBoy, there's plenty of explanation around here about why controlling the table from third base is all in your head. It just doesn't work that way.
KenSmith...Don't you want the Dealer to BUST and make the table win. Sometimes I stand on 7,8,9,10 in order to let the dealer bust while I can double my bet.

Sometimes I hit while I had hard 17 or 18 and BUST to prevent the dealer from getting 20.

I did it and got a lot to the table


Mikeaber...I am not in a mood for fighting to prove ideas. It is an opinion, if you like it or would you like to elaborate, you are welcome; otherwise, sleep is good idea!!!
 

Mikeaber

Well-Known Member
#17
SkyBoy said:
KenSmith...Don't you want the Dealer to BUST and make the table win. Sometimes I stand on 7,8,9,10 in order to let the dealer bust while I can double my bet.

Sometimes I hit while I had hard 17 or 18 and BUST to prevent the dealer from getting 20.

I did it and got a lot to the table


Mikeaber...I am not in a mood for fighting to prove ideas. It is an opinion, if you like it or would you like to elaborate, you are welcome; otherwise, sleep is good idea!!!
I acknowledge your post only to say that this has been discussed before on the form (as has extensive discussion of the Martingale Negative Progression). To continue discussion in this thread would only be redundant. Ken pretty much summed up the conclusions of the other discussions so elaborations are unnecessary.

I will say this much though....in order for you to "control the table" from third (or last) base or from the last two positions at the table (or any other position for that matter) you would have to KNOW what the next card is going to be in order to make any intelligent decision as to whether to take a hit or stand. You would have to know what the next TWO cards in the deck are if you decided to hit in order to make the dealer bust. Either scenario is impossible unless you are physic or have x-ray vision or something similar!
 

SkyBoy

Active Member
#18
Mikeaber said:
I acknowledge your post only to say that this has been discussed before on the form (as has extensive discussion of the Martingale Negative Progression). To continue discussion in this thread would only be redundant. Ken pretty much summed up the conclusions of the other discussions so elaborations are unnecessary.

I will say this much though....in order for you to "control the table" from third (or last) base or from the last two positions at the table (or any other position for that matter) you would have to KNOW what the next card is going to be in order to make any intelligent decision as to whether to take a hit or stand. You would have to know what the next TWO cards in the deck are if you decided to hit in order to make the dealer bust. Either scenario is impossible unless you are physic or have x-ray vision or something similar!

Mike... This topic is about where to sit, my answer was to sit at last and I provide my reasons for that. If my reasons were discussed before, it is not my problem.

Also, I am not physics or having x-ray machine to see behind walls. It is not a mystery; you are playing and noticing all the drawn cards. The remaining is to realize and GUESS!!! Maybe you will be wrong but if you are good you will be wrong not more than 3 times out of 10. Your score for sure would be 7 out of 10.

I hope I clear things out. Thanks Mike..
 

Mikeaber

Well-Known Member
#19
SkyBoy said:
Mike... This topic is about where to sit, my answer was to sit at last and I provide my reasons for that. If my reasons were discussed before, it is not my problem.

Also, I am not physics or having x-ray machine to see behind walls. It is not a mystery; you are playing and noticing all the drawn cards. The remaining is to realize and GUESS!!! Maybe you will be wrong but if you are good you will be wrong not more than 3 times out of 10. Your score for sure would be 7 out of 10.

I hope I clear things out. Thanks Mike..
First off, in just about any forum you visit, it is just common curtesy to look over previous discussions so that you avoid beating a dead horse. But, that's assuming a lot on my part....maybe we do not state that on this forum for new members. We'll set that aside and address this seating position a little more in detail.

For my benefit (I'm a simple minded person), please give me examples other than just guess. I presume that you are making an "educated guess" since you told me to observe the cards that have already fallen.

Please give me examples. Dealer has a "10" showing and you are sitting on a stiff hand (12-16). Based on what conditions would you hit and under which circumstances would you stand? Lay out as many players as you wish and describe their up-cards and how they relate to your decision please. Based on your answer, I'll play out the hands according to your rules and see how often my play determines what the dealer's fate will be. That should be a fair test.
 

tedloc

Well-Known Member
#20
SKYBOY

You stated"Sometimes I hit while I had hard 17 or 18 and BUST to prevent the dealer from getting 20.

I did it and got a lot to the table."


How do you know what the dealer has in the hole and how do you know what the next few card are?
 
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