One for the Experts to Argue

[waveslider]

never mind, my question was ; ) how does someones bad play not affect my play, is it because it is short term, or in the zone nothing matters but my perfect play ?

[21forme]

Waveslider - a few words of advice:
When you post a question, please include some content info in your title so we know what it's about. Many people only read posts that interest them, and having a title like "question" or "need advice" is very easy just to skip over.

[KenSmith]

This has been recently discussed at length. How another player plays their hands has no mathematical effect on your outcome. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it hurts. In the long run, it doesn't matter at all.

[QFIT]

Oddly; how a player bets can have a dramatic effect on your results. That is; if someone is backcounting, wonging-out or splitting to multiple hands at a positive count; your results will be substantially harmed.

[Renzey]

Originally Posted by QFIT

Oddly; how a player bets can have a dramatic effect on your results. That is; if someone is backcounting, wonging-out or splitting to multiple hands at a positive count; your results will be substantially harmed.

Norm,
It's understood that if somebody wongs in or grabs extra hands in a positive count, he'll be soaking up some of the other players' temporary advantage. But not realizing the "context" of your post, Waveliner might take your answer and run with it, saying, "See, I knew if the rum-dum at third base stands on 15 against an 8, he'll screw up my cards."

We need to impress upon him that it won't "screw up" his cards.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by Renzey

Norm,
It's understood that if somebody wongs in or grabs extra hands in a positive count, he'll be soaking up some of the other players' temporary advantage. But not realizing the "context" of your post, Waveliner might take your answer and run with it, saying, "See, I knew if the rum-dum at third base stands on 15 against an 8, he'll screw up my cards."

We need to impress upon him that it won't "screw up" his cards.

I agree - the very nature of Wavelider's question implies a deficient understanding of the math.

So, waveslider - NO, other players will NOT affect your outcome, statistically. zg

[waveslider]

Thank you, I am more interestedin actual play, and exactly what one person said about wonging out ....hogging cards etc. I will no longer play with such players unless i am experiencing bountiful positive variance in spite of their play.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by waveslider

Thank you, I am more interestedin actual play, and exactly what one person said about wonging out ....hogging cards etc. I will no longer play with such players unless i am experiencing bountiful positive variance in spite of their play.

HOW would you recognize them?? zg

[waveslider]

Spectacles and a wrinkled brow

[waveslider]

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