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Old June 12th, 2007, 09:23 AM
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John Grochowski's latest column at Casino City Times:
Casinos should make games better
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Old June 12th, 2007, 10:18 AM
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Forget the 6-5 payoffs on two-card 21s that have become an unfortunate trend on the Las Vegas Strip, and pay the full 3-2. Let blackjack be a beatable game. After all, few players can beat it.
Casinos would still make money, due to the continual stream of idiots splitting 4's vs. dealer 10. and the like.
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seriously, we've all seen it.

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Old June 12th, 2007, 10:43 AM
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This makes me wonder, about the future of blackjack. Will the games get better or will they continue to get worse. I could of been a rocket scientist by now, from the time ive invested in blackjack.
I mean come on now, gamblers are the lifeblood of the casinos, so why not appease them with appealing games. Give them something back for the billions they gaven you. Besides a lousy dinner.
I can barely beat the game sitting in the sterile atmosohere of my own kitchen. Let alone a noisy casino! What are they afraid of, its ridicolous, they should have some morals and go out stealing for a living.Thieves.
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Old June 12th, 2007, 11:29 AM
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This makes me wonder, about the future of blackjack. Will the games get better or will they continue to get worse.
The games will not get better or worse, only different. As long as there is a human dealing printed paper cards to players there will always be a way to beat the game. The ways to beat it will change, but the game itself will not get better or worse, only different.

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Casinos would still make money, due to the continual stream of idiots splitting 4's vs. dealer 10. and the like.
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seriously, we've all seen it.
This excerpt hits a nerve with me, in that I've maintained for some time now that the casinos have been "choking" themselves by overly restrictive BJ rules due to the false fear of being hammered by card counters. Mr. Tamburin's statements reflect the concepts from my post a while back titled "The few, the Proud..."
I seriously doubt that 5 out of 100 BJ players would be able to take advantage of expanded rules such as insurance, DAS, DOA and suurender. The five percent who could would just represent a normal "cost of doing business" while providing the elusive "golden carrot" notion for the rest of the masses.
Just the other night, this guy on 1st base stands on an A-5 with a $150 bet. Money right down the toilet! I just shook my head since I knew this guy was a sucessful and intellengent car dealer (table chit-chat), but was such an idiot at BJ.
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Old June 12th, 2007, 04:08 PM
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Improvement of games can possibly come when the average player begins to refuse to play under poor conditions. The trouble in places like the strip in Vegas is that the average player has no clue concerning with poor conditions just might be, and blackjack profits are going up and not down.

When a struggling casino thinks that they will increase profits by killing the game, they generally are making a mistake because the reasons they are struggling will have nothing to do with a beatable blackjack game but everything to do with not getting enough people inside their casino. We have seen this the last couple of years in downtown Vegas and profits continue to fall and I recently witnessed this at Soboba casino and see no reason why their profits will go up because there are newer, nicer places near them and better games now to the east (in nicer places also).

So, the day you walk into the MGM and see the two S-17 pits overflowing with players but no one at the H-17 pit and every 6/5 single deck table sitting empty, while all the blackjack pits at Harrah's are empty, it probably will get the attention of casino execs. The result of something this far fetched would be MGM improving their blackjack games overall and Harrah's removing all their's to make room for more slots.

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Old June 12th, 2007, 06:12 PM
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So, the day you walk into the MGM and see the two S-17 pits overflowing with players but no one at the H-17 pit and every 6/5 single deck table sitting empty, while all the blackjack pits at Harrah's are empty, it probably will get the attention of casino execs.
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I just had a thought about getting the attention of casino execs.

the dudes handing out those hooker cards on the strip, should be advertising decent blackjack games downtown or elsewhere.




thats what I'm talking about. (as if you didnt already know!)

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This makes me wonder, about the future of blackjack. Will the games get better or will they continue to get worse..
Worse and worser lol.

In 5 years there won't be an S17 in the country.

In ten years, there won't be a 3-2 BJ game.

So they'll have 5% fewer players with 95% of the players making them 4%.
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Worse and worser lol.

In 5 years there won't be an S17 in the country.

In ten years, there won't be a 3-2 BJ game.

So they'll have 5% fewer players with 95% of the players making them 4%.
I hope they keep getting worse! Muhahahaah!
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Old June 13th, 2007, 01:57 AM
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Advantage gambling is better now than it has ever been. Granted, US players are mostly locked out of bonus whoring, which was the greatest advantage opportunity ever, but there's poker everywhere, new casinos everywhere, new games to beat. Just today I discovered two new things I could beat, and one of them is in Ohio, where the only legal gambling is the lottery and horses.

Sure, there's no more single deck games, but who cares. We're in a golden age. If they completely removed blackjack from casinos, we would still have it better than someone in the late 60's.
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