hole-carding for beginners, rookies, and neophytes.

[Mimosine]

how does one go about finding a flasher? should you actually sit down at 3rd base and play a few rounds, can it be down without sitting down, are there any easy to describe tell tale cues an amateur like me should start looking for. i know that sometimes you can see a flash at 1st or 2nd base, but it seems to me that 3rd is prime real estate for this technique. is slouching always/often required?

I'm hitting vegas in 2 weeks with a newly expanded & painfully doubled bankroll. i have 3-4 days to play and want to at least be on the lookout for hole carding opportunities since they don't exist at my level of play locally.

for the sake of this discussion, let's assume everyone knows the strategy for flashing (see Sonny's posts here: http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/show...92&postcount=6 ), so let's leave those conversations in that thread!

[EasyRhino]

Ken Uston's Million Dollar Blackjack (referenced in Sonny's thread) has what seems to be a pretty good primer on flashing.

And also "spoofing" if you want to set up a team to read cards when the dealer checks for BJ.

And even some information on how to tell if your dealer is a "mechanic".

God bless old books.

[Sonny]

People make this out to be a lot harder than it actually is. It’s really quite simple. Just stand behind the players and watch the dealer for a while. If you spot a possible “gap” in their delivery, try to identify which seat would be the best to catch it from. Then sit down for a while and see if they are flashing enough to get a glimpse of the cards. If not, think about ways to encourage them to widen the gap.

The only way to get good at it is to get out there and do it. After watching dealers for a while you will start to know where to look and how much of a “gap” you need. Uston’s book has some good info on this, but the only way to really learn it is to do it. There is no piece of information that will magically give you the power to see the hole cards. It is a skill that must be practiced to be effective.

-Sonny-

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by EasyRhino

And also "spoofing" if you want to set up a team to read cards when the dealer checks for BJ.

Just be careful with spooking-type strategies. If the spotter is signaling you from elsewhere in the casino then I believe it is illegal. The person who catches the hole card must be at the same table as the player. At least that is my understanding.

-Sonny-

[Mimosine]

Originally Posted by Sonny

Just be careful with spooking-type strategies. If the spotter is signaling you from elsewhere in the casino then I believe it is illegal. -Sonny-

not interested in this, just straight up me against them is my style.

[EasyRhino]

Yeah, I forgot to mention that spooking is probably considered "cheating" by the law, and therefore you're talking possible jail time.

And it would just be for that one place that still checks the hole card without some kind of device to protect from spooking.

[RJT]

Spooking is most certainly illegal. No uncertainty about it, just flat out jail time.

RJT.

[Automatic Monkey]

There are a couple of things I'd like to add. Being tall is a drawback, and I know there are a few big guys posting in this thread. Slouching can compensate somewhat but it is noticeable and can be painful after a while. Also, sitting back further from the table can help by decreasing the angle between your eyes and the card, but the drawback to that is it makes the card harder to recognize. I've been in situations where I could see a card from 20 feet away but lost it when I actually sat down to play.

Being careful with your eyes and letting them stay acclimated to dark will help you. Of course, if you wear glasses keep them clean, prescription up to date and no shaded lenses. This will also help reduce fatigue in general.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by Mimosine

how does one go about finding a flasher? should you actually sit down at 3rd base and play a few rounds, can it be down without sitting down,

When you become more focused on what to look for you do not need to be sitting down.

For the sake of this discussion, let's assume everyone knows the strategy for flashing (see Sonny's posts here: http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/show...92&postcount=6 ), so let's leave those conversations in that thread!

How about someone post the more complete play strategy from Grosjean or Uston, please.

How about CrapMaster? Naaawww he won't post it because he didn't get elected moderator. GoldenShower..eerrr Vision, how about you? Anyone? Any Real Pros out there?

Ahh forget it. zg

[RJT]

A flashing dealer is by far more valuable than any counting game you will find. In fact it is probably the biggest average advantage you can gain over the game of blackjack legally and is more than worth the time spent to find if you have the skill to take that advantage.

RJT.