US player California needs advice
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No, it's a frigging nightmare.
And to be honest, if I just wanted to do it recreationally, I wouldn't play online at all. The hassle of of deposits withdrawals would suck all the fun out of it. It even sucks the fun out of it when you're hustling bonuses and have a built-in advantage.
But if you absolutely must play, I'd recommend getting an ecocard account. You'll have to fund it with moneygram or western union (and pay transaction fees). But after that, the casino side of deposits and cashouts are pretty easy. Any withdrawals back to you are by wire transfer (more fees, takes a bit over a week).
As for casinos, you're mainly looking at microgaming and realtime gaming softwares. Most of the microgamings are pretty good about paying. Few of the RTGs are (bodog and inetbet have good reputations, but bodog only pays by check, which I hear is hella slow).
So, in conclusion. It's costing you money before you even play (the WU/moneygram fees). You're up against an uncaring computer's house advantage. You can't get a comped room. There's no cocktail waitresses. And God forbid you win, you are going to be looking at 1-5 days delay on the casino side, and 5-9 days on the bank side, before you can convert that into real money, with about $30 in fees incurred again.
And this assumes you aren't playing with a slow-paying casino, in which case it may be a month or two. And it also assumes that your ewallet doesn't shut down on you without notice, freezing your funds, which has happened to me twice.
And to be honest, if I just wanted to do it recreationally, I wouldn't play online at all. The hassle of of deposits withdrawals would suck all the fun out of it. It even sucks the fun out of it when you're hustling bonuses and have a built-in advantage.
But if you absolutely must play, I'd recommend getting an ecocard account. You'll have to fund it with moneygram or western union (and pay transaction fees). But after that, the casino side of deposits and cashouts are pretty easy. Any withdrawals back to you are by wire transfer (more fees, takes a bit over a week).
As for casinos, you're mainly looking at microgaming and realtime gaming softwares. Most of the microgamings are pretty good about paying. Few of the RTGs are (bodog and inetbet have good reputations, but bodog only pays by check, which I hear is hella slow).
So, in conclusion. It's costing you money before you even play (the WU/moneygram fees). You're up against an uncaring computer's house advantage. You can't get a comped room. There's no cocktail waitresses. And God forbid you win, you are going to be looking at 1-5 days delay on the casino side, and 5-9 days on the bank side, before you can convert that into real money, with about $30 in fees incurred again.
And this assumes you aren't playing with a slow-paying casino, in which case it may be a month or two. And it also assumes that your ewallet doesn't shut down on you without notice, freezing your funds, which has happened to me twice.
I also live in California (San Diego area), so I am quite familiar with the situation. As EasyRhino mentioned, being in the US limits your options. As far as getting paid goes, I heard good things about iNetBet from US players recently. Players have mentioned payments in <1 day. They also are one of the few RTGs with a solid reputation that lists payout %s.
For quality of the games, I consider Microgaming to be far superior to RTG. Microgaming has more choices, a lower house edge, and advanced options including analysis of results, and autoplay with programmable strategy. I haven't had issues with getting paid from Microgaming, but I may have been lucky in that. I've mostly played at King Neptune's, Villento, and once in a while a Belle Rock or Trident group casino. However, some groups are having issues paying US players. You can search the Casinomeister complaint forums for more details.
Outside of RTG and MG, there are a few smaller software groups that you can find more detail on, if you search around. Some are good. Some are bad. The casino where I play blackjack (usually blackjack switch) most is not a RTG or MG. It's a world gaming. Player's only offers a 110% $220 bonus with 20xB playthrough each Wednesday. They don't have a great reputation, great software, or quuck payouts; but I have made a good-sized gain every week that I've played this bonus, and I've always been paid.
For quality of the games, I consider Microgaming to be far superior to RTG. Microgaming has more choices, a lower house edge, and advanced options including analysis of results, and autoplay with programmable strategy. I haven't had issues with getting paid from Microgaming, but I may have been lucky in that. I've mostly played at King Neptune's, Villento, and once in a while a Belle Rock or Trident group casino. However, some groups are having issues paying US players. You can search the Casinomeister complaint forums for more details.
Outside of RTG and MG, there are a few smaller software groups that you can find more detail on, if you search around. Some are good. Some are bad. The casino where I play blackjack (usually blackjack switch) most is not a RTG or MG. It's a world gaming. Player's only offers a 110% $220 bonus with 20xB playthrough each Wednesday. They don't have a great reputation, great software, or quuck payouts; but I have made a good-sized gain every week that I've played this bonus, and I've always been paid.
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online casinos - nah
I prefer driving to a casino and playing or flying . Never worry about getting paid , cash in and out all day llong , and also the comps which can really add up in a hurry . I have had friends e-wallets disappear or be frozen . try battling off shore games to get your money - near impossible .
I prefer driving to a casino and playing or flying . Never worry about getting paid , cash in and out all day llong , and also the comps which can really add up in a hurry . I have had friends e-wallets disappear or be frozen . try battling off shore games to get your money - near impossible .
