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Old November 14th, 2005, 10:03 AM
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Default William Hill Casino are f***ing cheats!!

After having my a$$ kicked for the 4th time William Hill Casino Blackjack, and the reason why? I may be a beginner but everytime I play it plays FOUR Blackjacks in a row!

In my last game with them, I started off with £60. I thought I could try for £100. Got as far as £72, then started losing (maybe should have pulled out, I don't know), but I clawed my self back to £50.

Then unbelievably their system switched to some invisible "hard" mode, and dealt me constant "14s" and "16s" with with 9 and 10s to make me bust. Then the next thing you know, after the dealer gave itself a 20, it goes on to FOUR 21s! I got TWO jacks, but of course that wasn't good enough!

I have to complain to the site! I know they want people to get "re-investing" but they are beyond a f***ing joke (Pardon my french.)

Does anyone else have any stories of ridiculous runs of cards?

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Old November 14th, 2005, 04:18 PM
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2deal2,

I sounds to me like you must be over-betting for the size of your pot and settting yourself too high a goal. With a pot of only £60 you should not make bets more than £1 or £2 or you will not be able to sustain the inevitable down swings.

Trying to get from £60 to £100 with only £1 or £2 bets is unrealistic. It happens but only with very good luck and only reckless gamblers or those with money to burn risk it that freely. If I was starting with only £60 I would restrict bets to £2 and quit if I reached £65, or maybe £70 if I was feeling really lucky.

To make worthwhile amounts of money you need to be playing with a sizeable wad of cash and you must be prepared to lose it. Gambling is all about risk versus reward and internet casino play is pure gambling for the player (not the casino) with the odds always against you. Good blackjack play is all about reducing the risk to the absolute minimum on every hand. The vast majority of punters lose. Welcome to the club!
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Old November 14th, 2005, 04:54 PM
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I'm confused. You say I should bet only £2 with a £60 pot - but then I would hardly get anywhere! I make £5 bets that get me near to £100, but the system (website dealer) always beats me!

I think getting to £100 from £60 is reasonable don't you? I wouldn't quit at £70. That's a waste of time

Still you probably have tons of more experience than me, so I value your comments.
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Old November 14th, 2005, 05:23 PM
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Gambling is gambling, so bet what you want. Unless you are a decent counter in good conditions you will usually lose money over the long run.
I don't agree with Blagger. I cant see the point in quiting if you get to 65 pound, thats only 5 pound win! If you won three hands at 2 quid a go you'd have to stop. I'd probably bet 5 quid a hand.
Actually, I see this whole post as pretty pointless, except maybe the cheating casino issue, because no matter how much you bet or when you stop or whatever, unless the odds are in your favour you will lose money.
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Old November 15th, 2005, 03:36 PM
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Aussiecounter,

I don't disagree with you. I would also find it very unnsatisfactory quitting with only a £5 profit. My point is that a £60 BR is too small for £5 or £10 bets. By all means go for bigger win targets but start with a BR big enough to give you a realistic chance of achieving it with the expectation of downward and upward streaks. Casinos love to see punters over-betting because it makes it much easier to wipe them out or trigger their stop losses. A serious player keeps bet sizes, and win targets proportional to their BR.
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Old November 15th, 2005, 05:35 PM
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I'd try for a 30% profit,myself.
If I turned 60 units into 78,I'd either quit or play a little aggressively with 8 units.If I lost those 8,I'd quit.
Trying to push 60 into 100 is being a bit too agressive on a regular basis.
I'd rather preserve my bankroll and take consistant 20% wins.
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