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June 22nd, 2007, 09:55 PM
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Keeping it Simple with BS
I was reading an old post in regards to BS and somebody posted stating that you only really need to memorize one BS for all games becasue the difference between playing one strategy over another is only 0.1% difference.
What is the consensus, do you really need to memorize every single chart for every game, or can you just play one strategy all the time on all games.
Im the sort of guy who strives to keep it as simple as possible and just play consistently.
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June 22nd, 2007, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DC15
I was reading an old post in regards to BS and somebody posted stating that you only really need to memorize one BS for all games becasue the difference between playing one strategy over another is only 0.1% difference.
What is the consensus, do you really need to memorize every single chart for every game, or can you just play one strategy all the time on all games.
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One 'composite' BS will suffice, as to #decks, BUT it is necessary to learn some rule-dependent BS variations for DAS and LS. zg
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June 23rd, 2007, 08:59 AM
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One 'composite' BS will suffice, as to #decks, BUT it is necessary to learn some rule-dependent BS variations for DAS and LS. zg
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is there a referance for the chart? i believe i've seen one recommended for double deck thru eight deck.
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June 24th, 2007, 12:13 AM
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I was reading an old post in regards to BS and somebody posted stating that you only really need to memorize one BS for all games becasue the difference between playing one strategy over another is only 0.1% difference.DC
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Even in an extreme case I doubt if it would be even half that.
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June 24th, 2007, 04:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DC15
I was reading an old post in regards to BS and somebody posted stating that you only really need to memorize one BS for all games becasue the difference between playing one strategy over another is only 0.1% difference.
What is the consensus, do you really need to memorize every single chart for every game, or can you just play one strategy all the time on all games.
Im the sort of guy who strives to keep it as simple as possible and just play consistently.
DC
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It depends what rule variations are used:
If you are comparing multi-deck hit soft 17 to multi-deck stand on soft 17, then it won't make much difference. There are only 3 strategy differences, and the difference in expected return on those hands between the strategy differences is no more than ~.04. The net impact on overall expected return is much lower since those three hands occur a very small portion of the time.
If you are comparing single-deck with H17, no DAS, and no peek for BJ to standard multi-deck S17, then it will make a lot more difference.
I'd recommend trying to understand why the rule differences occur, then it will be easier to remember.
Last edited by aka23; June 24th, 2007 at 05:28 PM.
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June 25th, 2007, 01:03 AM
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Off-hand,I'd say the biggest difference in BS for various cards involves pairs of 4s.
A hand that I can recall getting perhaps thrice.
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June 25th, 2007, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by shadroch
Off-hand,I'd say the biggest difference in BS for various cards involves pairs of 4s.
A hand that I can recall getting perhaps thrice.
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I got it 4 times this last weekend. Got **** every time for splitting them: "you never split 10's, 5's, or 4's!"
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June 25th, 2007, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by moo321
I got it 4 times this last weekend. Got **** every time for splitting them: "you never split 10's, 5's, or 4's!"
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unless its 10's and 4's
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best regards,
mr fr0g  MMOA honorary predator
STRENGTH - HONOR - HEART
that's my take on it your mileage may vary.
for senior citizen fuzzy count click link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrTiP4ZIUfI
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June 25th, 2007, 11:22 PM
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I got it 4 times this last weekend. Got **** every time for splitting them: "you never split 10's, 5's, or 4's!"
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Why didn't you offer to sell the hand?As you obviously were screwing up the flow of cards,I'm thinking someone would have stepped up to buy the hand and save the table.
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June 26th, 2007, 12:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moo321
I got it 4 times this last weekend. Got **** every time for splitting them: "you never split 10's, 5's, or 4's!"
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Split 10s on 5.5+ count ( Hi-Lo ), 5s always play as 10, 4s on dealers 5 or 6..
Never say never..
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