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Old June 24th, 2007, 05:07 PM
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ATTENTION BLACKJACK PLAYERS

New Promotion gives players a Mathematical ADVANTAGE!
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When figuring out the odds when you are playing BlackJack the most important fact is that the player has to make his or her decisions first, before the dealer plays out his own hand. That one fact is what gives the house its biggest advantage which is about 8% over the player. Think about it….because the player acts first, if the player busts, the house wins right away, even if the dealer subsequently busts also.

But that's the casino's only advantage. Everything else about BlackJack gives the player a chance to regain some of that 8%.

GetOffTheRail Casino has decided to offer its BlackJack players a BETTER than even chance of beating us at the BlackJack table. OffTheRail is offering you the right to receive 10% of any monthly BlackJack losses. More than a chance to play even, OffTheRail is offering a 10% safety net when the OffTheRail advantage is 8%. That means you, the BlackJack player, will have a 2% advantage.

There is no catch to this offer. We will still be profitable at the BlackJack tables because not every BlackJack player will sign up for this offer. The players who don’t sign up will still be sitting in front of their computers hoping for “Aces and Faces” while you know that you have a slight advantage.

If you want to take advantage of this offer first download our software here:
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After a simple registration, go to the OffTheRail Cashier Page, fill in your User Name, select “Card” in Bonus Type and then insert “BLKJK” in the Card Code field. You will then automatically have the 10% deposit placed in your account on the 5th day of each month for your BlackJack play during the prior month.

GetOffTheRail offers you the best BlackJack odds anywhere!

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Old June 24th, 2007, 07:29 PM
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... "off the wall." If it seems too good to be true, ... well, you know the rest.
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Old June 24th, 2007, 09:12 PM
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To the B.H.'s - the people looking for "real" edges online. Please compute the true EV here and post if it's positive or negative. I'm not going to play it, but I'd like to see some members who are into this sort of thing take some money from the charlatans.
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Old June 24th, 2007, 09:20 PM
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GetOffTheRail Casino has decided to offer its BlackJack players a BETTER than even chance of beating us at the BlackJack table. OffTheRail is offering you the right to receive 10% of any monthly BlackJack losses. More than a chance to play even, OffTheRail is offering a 10% safety net when the OffTheRail advantage is 8%. That means you, the BlackJack player, will have a 2% advantage.
Say what? A few unsuspecting ploppies may see that very flawed logic and actually believe they have a 2% advantage.
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Old June 24th, 2007, 09:21 PM
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To the B.H.'s - the people looking for "real" edges online. Please compute the true EV here and post if it's positive or negative. I'm not going to play it, but I'd like to see some members who are into this sort of thing take some money from the charlatans.
Don't worry, it's negative. Because they are giving you a 10% loss rebate means the house edge is reduced by 10%, but they player DOES NOT have an advantage playing that promo.
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Old June 24th, 2007, 09:25 PM
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Wait, how often is the loss rebate computed? If you take the loss rebate as soon as you lose one unit, it would significantly affect the house advantage, probably making it +EV if you play it right.

For example, if they rebate the loss whenever you request, it would be like being on the receiving end of a 10% commission in baccarat.
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Old June 24th, 2007, 09:39 PM
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Wait, how often is the loss rebate computed? If you take the loss rebate as soon as you lose one unit, it would significantly affect the house advantage, probably making it +EV if you play it right.

For example, if they rebate the loss whenever you request, it would be like being on the receiving end of a 10% commission in baccarat.
It might work in the short-run, like for one hand, or a few hands, but in the long-run it doesn't work because in the long-run playing at a disadvantage you will be down money. With the loss rebate you will just be getting some of that back.
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Old June 24th, 2007, 10:00 PM
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I didn't look into it because I really don't know all the ins and outs, but maybe they offer more than just the 10% rebate- sign up bonus etc. The additive bonuses could be positive.
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Old June 24th, 2007, 10:02 PM
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Say what? A few unsuspecting ploppies may see that very flawed logic and actually believe they have a 2% advantage.
That's why I called them charlatans. That is exactly what they are advertising, and what they want the general unsuspecting potential customers to believe.
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Old June 25th, 2007, 12:09 AM
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It might work in the short-run, like for one hand, or a few hands, but in the long-run it doesn't work because in the long-run playing at a disadvantage you will be down money. With the loss rebate you will just be getting some of that back.
So why not just play one hand, and if you lose it get the loss rebate, and if you win it, you win the normal amount? $100 bets?
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