CNE Casino Blackjack - update

[halcyon1234]

Here's the confirmed details so far:

No heat at all. They do not check for card counters.
$5 min, $25 max
H17
No hole card
Lucky Ladies sidebet (4:1 for ANY 20....9:1 for any suited 20 and up....Two Queen of Hearts 1000:1 [I think that's with Dealer Blackjack] )
DAS, no resplit aces, no hitting split aces
Double any two
Blackjack pays 3:2
Hand shuffled, shoe dealt
Mid shoe entry
No surrender

Unconfirmed (details coming soon)
6 decks (it may be 8 decks)
Very deep pen

Unknown
Split to how many hands (assuming the standard 4)


These rules give me a house edge of 0.72% for 6 deck, 0.75% for 8 deck.

So about the only way to beat this is to Wong the standford out of it at TC 2, lay down the max bet all the time, play multiple hands, and use every index possible (including splitting 10s if there's no heat!). Too bad there's no holecard, because these dealers are green, green, GREEN! Literally straight out of dealer school. Perhaps that can be an advantage. Bet $23 instead of $25, and hope the dealer can't work with non-$5 increments that are odd. =)

[Brock Windsor]

Originally Posted by halcyon1234

Here's the confirmed details so far:

No heat at all. They do not check for card counters.
$5 min, $25 max
H17
No hole card
Lucky Ladies sidebet (4:1 for ANY 20....9:1 for any suited 20 and up....Two Queen of Hearts 1000:1 [I think that's with Dealer Blackjack] )
DAS, no resplit aces, no hitting split aces
Double any two
Blackjack pays 3:2
Hand shuffled, shoe dealt
Mid shoe entry
No surrender

Unconfirmed (details coming soon)
6 decks (it may be 8 decks)
Very deep pen

Unknown
Split to how many hands (assuming the standard 4)


These rules give me a house edge of 0.72% for 6 deck, 0.75% for 8 deck.

So about the only way to beat this is to Wong the standford out of it at TC 2, lay down the max bet all the time, play multiple hands, and use every index possible (including splitting 10s if there's no heat!). Too bad there's no holecard, because these dealers are green, green, GREEN! Literally straight out of dealer school. Perhaps that can be an advantage. Bet $23 instead of $25, and hope the dealer can't work with non-$5 increments that are odd. =)

No Hole Card?? Boo-urns. European style I take it. Can't imagine too many open seats for wonging out, that with the bad rules sounds like a do not play. Any idea what the shuffle is?? Maybe with raw dealers they'll plug the tops and just do a two pass. Don't forget to help the dealers with their math counting hands of 4 or more cards, paying BJ's, and making change. I'll probably still check it out as my counting buddy can't play Rama anymore.

[golfnut101]

With excellent pen, a big spread and no heat, you can get the money, despite these rules. I think we take for granted the option to backcount and lay down big bets under no scrutiny.

[Jeff25]

Originally Posted by golfnut101

lay down big bets

Big bets? Max $25?

If it is the same as last year, the best bet is to play the muli-action tables. That way you can get $75 or even $150 (2 spots) down in the high counts.

[halcyon1234]

$25 can be a big bet if you're wonging (though 3 hands of $75 is ideal). $25 as a big bet on a Wonging 0-1 would mean you can get away with a $2500 bankroll.

Also: LL sidebet is $1 - $25.

[bluewhale]

i'm a dealer there.... you can split to 3 hands. the dealers are trained to cut off 1 deck out of an 8 deck shoe. yes its 8, not 6 decks.