Indian casinos in new York

[glovesetc]

Does anyone have any opinions on Buffalo . Niagara falls, Salamanca , or Turning stone ? They only play 8 deck DAS 17,peek with basically a 2 deck pen but often 1.5 decks depending on dealer .Any info on this would be appreciated . TY in advance as always .

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by glovesetc

Does anyone have any opinions on Buffalo . Niagara falls, Salamanca , or Turning stone ? They only play 8 deck DAS 17,peek with basically a 2 deck pen but often 1.5 decks depending on dealer .Any info on this would be appreciated . TY in advance as always .

Here's my worthless opinion. Never played Turning stone.

Salamanca and Niagara are the same and suck equally.

Play them for entertainment, have fun, and drink alot since it'll cost u more to go to a movie and buy popcorn and a coke.

[glovesetc]

are you in that part of the state near N Falls or Salamanca ?

[shadroch]

When did they start giving free drinks away at turning stone?

[iwantblackjack]

Originally Posted by shadroch

When did they start giving free drinks away at turning stone?

As far as i recall, they still DO NOT have liquor license and do not serve drinks. TS is probably thinking about it for the future; check "their website"/info/alcohol.pdf

Originally Posted by glovesetc

Does anyone have any opinions on Buffalo. Niagara falls, Salamanca , or Turning stone? They only play 8 deck DAS 17,peek with basically a 2 deck pen but often 1.5 decks depending on dealer .Any info on this would be appreciated . TY in advance as always .

You may want to read an old thread: http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=4704

[pieinthesky]

8 decks at TS (as of my last visit about a month ago) have about 65% pen from a notch (though a few dealers ignore the notch and give you the one-deck cutoff all the dealers used to); standard rules - S17, double any two, DAS, only one card on split aces, no surrender. Spreading to multiple hands allowed. Minimums are $15 and $25 in the regular pits (I've never played the high roller pit, but noticed $200 min. DD and 6D on a walk-by last time I was there). No alcohol served on premises. Never had any heat, but with the lousy pen they now give, they don't need it. In my view, not worth making a trip from any appreciable distance; certainly not if better games are available to you.

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by glovesetc

are you in that part of the state near N Falls or Salamanca ?

I'm in PA so I'm closer to Salamanca.

Also I heard if u buy gas on Indian land there's no federal tax so u save maybe 30 cents/gal.

Now there's a comp

I also actually got food comps playing BJ in Salamanca which basically never happens to me in AC.

[glovesetc]

They are easy to get BJ but harder on slots although I have built up $513 in comp money along with 3 free nights of rooms and comcert tickets as well . The gas is about $.30 cents cheaper and cigs are like $18.00 to $25.00 cheaper as well and i always buy like 20 cartons when i go up so that is a huge win in itself !!!!!!!! I live outside of cleveland and go up once a week or so . I play 8d only and use BS only but am trying to learn card counting as well .

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by glovesetc

They are easy to get BJ but harder on slots although I have built up $513 in comp money along with 3 free nights of rooms and comcert tickets as well . The gas is about $.30 cents cheaper and cigs are like $18.00 to $25.00 cheaper as well and i always buy like 20 cartons when i go up so that is a huge win in itself !!!!!!!! I live outside of cleveland and go up once a week or so . I play 8d only and use BS only but am trying to learn card counting as well .

Hey - thanks for the cigarette tip! Makes sense but never thought of it.

I spent a night at the new hotel in May and it was very nice. They wouldn't serve me double-vodkas on the rocks so I had to order a lot of singles. Turns out, there's actually vodka in it because I got drunk as a skunk lol. Spent my winnings on a kobe steak - small but good. Excellent soup and sandwich the next day.

The only bad thing that happened was when they made my wife pay extra at a $10 table AFTER she lost the hand with a $5 bet (limits had recently changed) that the dealer didn't catch at the beginning of the round. They explained, if she had won, they would have paid her extra. I was born at night but not last night lol.

OK - the other bad thing was she started playing 3-card poker

So just how bad is it being a Browns fan? - I'd think I'd want out of town alot more often than that

[glovesetc]

Being a browns fan is wonderful I would assume . I bet with My wallet not with my heart . They will be maybe 6-10 this year and maybe 6-10 the next year . They are terrible but then again the rest of the division is weak as well . I am an outstanding handicapper on football and have not had a losing season in probably 15 years . BROADSTREET SMOKES is the cheapest play in town on cigs . It is the last store on the main drag in a plaza right after the light on the right side. It is next to a restaurant- that sucks - and ask for Justin or PJ and tell them I sent you and they will take care of you on cigs - big time !!!!! The exact address is 693 broad street and it is only like 2 minutes from the casino if that .