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August 7th, 2007, 12:57 PM
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Gorilla vs. BP
What is the difference?
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August 7th, 2007, 01:05 PM
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A Gorilla BP doesn’t know how to count so the spotters have to tell him how to bet, how to play and when to leave. A regular BP can just pick up the RC from the spotter and play on his own.
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August 7th, 2007, 04:15 PM
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So whats the use of having a gorilla play if he can't play without help from others? Doesn't that just add more risk without much in return?
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August 7th, 2007, 04:19 PM
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So whats the use of having a gorilla play if he can't play without help from others? Doesn't that just add more risk without much in return?
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Normally a Gorilla is used to get a huge bet spread between the BP and the spotters. It is less effective than playing with a regular BP, but it still gives you a big advantage. It also saves you a lot of training time.
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August 7th, 2007, 04:51 PM
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I'm sure the Gorilla can just ask advice or whatever on the hand and act indecisive when it's a close call. Would be very hard for the casino to detect.
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August 7th, 2007, 05:39 PM
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Of course, gorillas are less efficient, because they generally only have one bet size. And your signals to the gorilla can get picked off by surveillance if they watch tape of you.
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August 7th, 2007, 08:46 PM
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Of course, gorillas are less efficient, because they generally only have one bet size. And your signals to the gorilla can get picked off by surveillance if they watch tape of you.
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Not if its verbal.Think relay system.
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August 7th, 2007, 09:14 PM
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Not if its verbal.Think relay system.
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You can't relay a count to a gorilla. A gorilla doesn't know how to count and might not even know Basic Strategy. You have to signal every move.
The advantage of a gorilla is that you can use any kind of player for cover- attractive young woman, elderly or handicapped, celebrity lookalike, etc., and the only skill they need to have is to follow a signal from a play caller.
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August 7th, 2007, 10:32 PM
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All you need do is signal when to enter and when to leave.He's not spreading a bet.Counts good he enters,counts bad he leaves. Rinse and repeat.
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August 8th, 2007, 12:29 AM
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[QUOTE=Automatic Monkey;47430]You can't relay a count to a gorilla. A gorilla doesn't know how to count and might not even know Basic Strategy. You have to signal every move.
Without being insensitive to your relatives here Monk, I think it's big hassle to signal a gorilla for every play, DD, splits, stand/hit etc. You are wasting a lot of energy as well as the possibility of excessive signal interceptions. The ideal situation would be to teach him CABC adjusted to the count at point of entry/exit. Therefore he will be making the correct play for the count he is up against and only needs an exit signal at that point.
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