Four Winds Resort in New Buffalo, MI

[Carmine782]

Anyone been to the new four winds resort in New Buffalo, MI?

IF so how did you like it?

Anyone know House Edge, Amount of Tables, Min/Max Bet, Amount of Decks, the Cut, and the rules for blackjack there?

[person1125]

I didn't even know it was open yet...is it??

[Carmine782]

Yeah it opened last week.

[Preston]

It is open and the conditions are mediocre at best -- 8 decks, 2 deck cutoff, and there is a cover on the discard try so you can't look at how much has been dealt .. however I was able to see through the cover to get a good idea.

the most +EV thing I experienced was the dealer errors -- a whole casino of new dealers. I had one that was paying me 2 to 1 on BJ's and paying out a lot of pushes :-)

[moo321]

Unbalanced count would work if anyone really can't do deck estimations.

[glovesetc]

new buffalo exactly ????

[Preston]

Originally Posted by glovesetc

new buffalo exactly ????

Exit 4 off I-94 in Michigan, right near the Indiana border, about 10-15 miles east of Blue Chip (which has better playing conditions and isn't as busy, I might add.)

[chichow]

One of the dealers from an Indiana casino said that it was CSM's at Four Winds?

Is he right or wrong? or is it a mix?

Hand shuffles or Auto shufflers?

[Preston]

I did not see any CSM's there, but I can't say there aren't any.

It was 8 decks with a cover on the discard tray which makes deck estimation kinda difficult.

that and I really didn't like the casino anyway...

[noman]

Not CSM's, but auto 6 deck shufflers, ya know in rotation. Dealer stand soft 17 and BJ pays 3-2. Double after split. Split up to 4 x. Probably by dealer, but the cut I saw was one half to one. Confusion may be in a couple of tables in the pai gow, table baccarrat area as opposed to bulk of BJ tables. But even then, I didn't see a CSM. Didn't check Hi rollers room. $15 to $3,500 minimum tables. Censors in chips registered before deal transmitted automatically to the computer to track players bets.

VP 9-7--9-6.

Poker room "sucks". Worse than on line poker. One spends more time figuring out the screen than playing. It's all automated computer run. Plus one can string bet and pull bets back, and all kinds of other tricks it has taken the pros years to train everyone else on the proper etiquette.

Just for giggles the slot promotion has three levels of must win progressives.
When the progressive gets close to the max out, the progressive will pay someone who is currently playing, on a random basis. But there are 3,000 slots and the place has been averaging 20,000 a day and 30,000-40,000 on weekends. And talk about ill gotten competition, spill over is going down the road to the Blue Chip, which hasn't had such crowds. in a long time.