6 deck min $3 vs. 8 deck $2 min...which one is best?

[letsdothis21]

Okay so I am at a new casino (new for me) and they have an 8 deck game min bet $2 with 2 decks cut off and a 6 deck game min $3 with 1.5 decks cut off, which should I play?

My BR is around $2,000. Should I play the minimum $2 table so I will have a smaller RoR?

The BS engine on the site said house edge was .69% on 8 deck game and .66% on 6 deck game.

Thanks!

Sitting at the coffee shop right now so hopefully someone will respond fast, haha

[Automatic Monkey]

The real benefit is the extra 0.5 D pen on the 6D game. That makes the 6D clearly preferable.

[shadroch]

Both games are dealing 75% of the cards,how is one better than the other?

[Stoney]

The six deck is better if both have equal pct pen, shuffles take less time and you are more frequently closer to the end of the shoe with the six deck, the first several rounds of an eight deck shoe never proudce a signifigant true count. With the six deck you get less 'meaningless' rounds play is more productive neg shoes end quicker. Also I believe you get slightly more black jack's the less decks you have

[21forme]

More 6D shoes will produce a positive count than 8D shoes.

[sagefr0g]

Originally Posted by shadroch

Both games are dealing 75% of the cards,how is one better than the other?

see the discussion here shad.......

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=7256

[Automatic Monkey]

Originally Posted by shadroch

Both games are dealing 75% of the cards,how is one better than the other?

When you're comparing 6 and 8 deck games, the real measure is the number of decks, not the percentage.

[shadroch]

Originally Posted by Automatic Monkey

When you're comparing 6 and 8 deck games, the real measure is the number of decks, not the percentage.

I understand that six decks is better than eight. What I don't understand is your remark that the extra 0.5 penetration is what makes it better.

[moo321]

If I recall correctly, a 6 deck game with 1.5 decks cut off is better than a 4 deck or an 8 deck with the same penetration. It has to do with the frequency of higher counts.

IN general, a single deck game is preferable because you will easily see +10 counts. And a deeply dealt 6 deck game is good because you will see +5 true counts that last for a long time.

[Automatic Monkey]

Originally Posted by shadroch

I understand that six decks is better than eight. What I don't understand is your remark that the extra 0.5 penetration is what makes it better.

If the 8D game had 1.5D pen and the 6D game had 2D pen, the 8D would be better. 6D is better than 8D but only by a small margin, equivalent to about 9 cards penetration. So if you are choosing between games, and you see an 8D game that is dealt a quarter deck deeper than a 6D game with the same rules, you'd choose the 8D.

All this assuming the typical ranges of shoe penetration (1-2D) Once you get into really bad pen, the math becomes nonlinear but those are games you're going to be avoiding anyway.