DD S21 after splitting X's??

[jack,jackson]

Ive always liked the concept of this play but have never really implemented this into my strategy. How high would the count have to be to justify risking your 21. Does anyone use this play? Are there playing indexes for such a risky play? Would it be to much exposure? Any thoughts?

[moo321]

The count would probably have to be oscenely high, and it's probably not worth it. No one in their right mind (except a counter or a hole-carder) would do that.

[Knox]

What is the typical true count index trigger for splitting tens?

[moo321]

+5 or +6 if I recall correctly. I usually won't split them until +7, though.

[Knox]

I'm trying to translate back to KO. Systemstrader says split 'em when 3 above the pivot against a 5 or 6 in all cases (apparently). ZG says split against same (5-6) at +4 against 1-2 decks.

Would the only way to prove this out be to sim it and check the effect on EV?

[sagefr0g]

Originally Posted by Knox

What is the typical true count index trigger for splitting tens?

tc>=5 for 10,10v5

tc>=4 for 10,10v6

hi/lo multi-deck s17

[EasyRhino]

I've done it with a $5 bet for fun. But no idea at what point it becomes a smart play.

[Mimosine]

Originally Posted by EasyRhino

I've done it with a $5 bet for fun. But no idea at what point it becomes a smart play.

for KO it is roughly RC +5.5.

[Stoney]

It just attracts too much attention!! more than any other play, everyone else at the table cringes, a moan goes up, the dealer will look at you funny. If you hear people and dealers talking about card counting they almost always say something about splitting 10's, but what the hell do I know, I just got back off at two shops in one night .

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by jack,jackson

Ive always liked the concept of this play but have never really implemented this into my strategy. How high would the count have to be to justify risking your 21. Does anyone use this play? Are there playing indexes for such a risky play? Would it be to much exposure? Any thoughts?

The index vs 5-6 is about +8 HiLo, I believe. I've done it, of course. Once at the TI high-limit slon I was trying to connect with the gorgeous hooker at the table on grave - the count was right, I doubled A-10 after splitting 10s, the whole table lost after the dealer drew 4 cards to 21, and the pretty girl called me an a**hole and left. zg