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Old August 23rd, 2007, 10:15 PM
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Default wut's dis "KISS III" ish? nevva herd of it. NT

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Old August 24th, 2007, 01:48 PM
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are you stoned?
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Old August 24th, 2007, 01:53 PM
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He's a bot!
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Old August 24th, 2007, 02:13 PM
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Kiss III is a card counting system from Fred Renzey's book.

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Old August 24th, 2007, 04:53 PM
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Default thanx but...

anyone wanna give me a crash course or be a little more descriptive before i purchase yet another cc book?

is it unbalanced or balanced? is it multi-parameter or single? what are the count values?

anyhelp would be greatly appreciated. (No, not stoned--just a lazy typer.)
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Old August 24th, 2007, 06:17 PM
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It's an unbalanced count. Basically, it's a deeper look at the red7 (and credit is given to Snyder for the idea).

The book (Blackjack Bluebook II) I found to be very easy to read. Yes, some of it was simple, and I know a lot of advanced players breezed through it, but as for myself (and a number of others here) it cleared up a LOT.

I had started on red7 because i had first read snyder's Blackbelt in Blackjack. BB II just fleshed it out.

Oh, the BIG difference is red7-count red 7's, where KISS has the black 2's counted. (black 2's, all 3,4,5 & 6 =+1, 10 & a -1).

Hope it helps, and sorry 'bout the 'bot' crack!
(Ohhh, sorry about THAT one, too!)
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Old August 24th, 2007, 06:35 PM
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If I had to destroy all my blackjack books except just one Blackjack Bluebook II is the one I'd keep without question.
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Old August 24th, 2007, 07:57 PM
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just a random question but why would the color matter?
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Old August 24th, 2007, 08:50 PM
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just a random question but why would the color matter?
As near as I can tell, nothing. Counting the half-rank just gives it the offset balance it needs. It can be done by counting EVERY 7 (or 2) as a half, but counting in whole numbers is a lot easier!

Also, looking for a 'red' or 'black' is a WHOLE lot easier than counting by suit!
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Old August 24th, 2007, 11:13 PM
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BB II is the reason I'm still playing blackjack. It's a great system and easy to learn. There are a *lot* of other nuggets of info in there beyond straight counting, too.

God, I'm praising the guy so much I'm just waiting for someone to say they think I'm actually him, trying to sell books.

Seriously though, if a friend wants to read about card counting, this is the book I tell them to buy.
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