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Old April 20th, 2005, 09:08 AM
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advice required,

have just started playing black jack and am having some good results in the first half of 3 hour sessions.

play using basic system and normally have cash to start of about £400.00.

nomally up about £200.00 in one to one and half hours.

advise or methods on how to stop and get out before losing everything.

find it difficult to stop when ahead


thanks Rasputinn
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Old April 20th, 2005, 10:26 AM
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advice required,

have just started playing black jack and am having some good results in the first half of 3 hour sessions.

play using basic system and normally have cash to start of about £400.00.

nomally up about £200.00 in one to one and half hours.

advise or methods on how to stop and get out before losing everything.

find it difficult to stop when ahead


thanks Rasputinn
What I have done since starting my training sessions at home is this. I set a limit for losses and winnings before I even sit down. Then no matter which limit I reach first I stop get up and do something else for a while. Then come back and start all over...

It takes a bit of discipline but it seems to be working so far. Now I just have to put it to the test at a real casino :D
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Old April 20th, 2005, 11:11 AM
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I have the very same problem! And what makes it even worse? I say i will leave at some point, then i decide to stay and end up winning a bunch!

I think the best thing to do is to stick to whatever you set though. I have also lost more when not being disciplined. Personally, my limits are:
4x whatever i bring in,
2-4 hours
if i lose what i bring in, i'm done.
if i have 4x what i brought in in my pocket, i will use whatever is left over as "play money" until i hit one of the other limits.

What is so nasty about going to casinos is that afterwards you look back and see how cloudy-headed you can get after many hours of play... but at the time you don't realize... if you get a good win you should walk around, dring something (water, etc), take a restroom break, use some comps on some food or something!! The more refreshed you are the better you will likely do and the more fun it will be!

I have played for 8 hours straight before... i at the very least stick with basic strategy, but my betting strategy becomes very risky. I end up being like "it will turn around the next hand, so i will bet max! lol"

The betting strategy that has worked the best for me so far on a 4-deck shoe... start small, build up if the shoe is paying out... and at Treasure Island in redwing, minnesota... they don't shuffle nearly as thoroughly as i have seen at other casinos. I swear that a good shoe tends to stay a good shoe and a bad shoe stays bad for a quite a while. There is a chance a shoe can turn around... but last time i went, i sat down on a 4-deck shoe and lost most hands in a 6-hour period. i switched tables on the last shoe before it was about to be closed down, i won almost every hand (6-deck), i switched to another 4-deck shoe and it was hot the entire night! i won everything back and more! In the previous times I went, i have found nice tables which keep on paying out... i end up building up to table max ($195) and just keep winning them!
Its a wonderful feeling when they have to bring out black chips to refill the chip tray
Now if only online casinos had as good of odds as a real table with a 4-deck shoe...
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Old April 21st, 2005, 09:45 PM
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I honestly think this is the reason that casinos make a lot from BJ. I know the odds are in the houses favor in the long run, but I see more people win than lose right away. But then they get stupid because they are playing with the casinos money. It has happened to me. Even in the past 4 days. i won 375 Monday, 525 Tuesday. I went Wednesday because a friend wanted to go and I was just going to play 100 bucks at a 10 dollar table betting the minimun for fun and ended up losing 500 because I thought hey, what the heck, it's money I didn't have anyway. And when I'm down and aggrivated, I do the same thing and think the dealers luck has to change sometime so I throw a big bet out there only to double and lose.

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Old April 22nd, 2005, 12:21 AM
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I know what you mean SoBu Mike,
I just played 313 hands in the sim and lost everything (The $1000 we given)
Other times iv won $600 (walk out point atm), Full BS, Flat betting 15-30. Guess cards wernt in my favour this time
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Old April 22nd, 2005, 10:59 AM
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advice required,

have just started playing black jack and am having some good results in the first half of 3 hour sessions.

play using basic system and normally have cash to start of about £400.00.

nomally up about £200.00 in one to one and half hours.

advise or methods on how to stop and get out before losing everything.

find it difficult to stop when ahead


thanks Rasputinn

Yes, learn to count cards

anyways, this is the method I used to use when I was a BS player.....

I'd walk in with so much, then I'd keep playing until I doubled it, then I set the first half of my money aside and said that I would not touch it again for the night.

So say I walked in with $100, if I got up to $200, I set the original $100 aside and only played with the $200 I just made, if I made another $100, I set the half I was playing with aside and played with that $100 so I effectivly had a "bank" that I just kept putting money into, and if I lost the $100 I was playing with, I'd up and leave. It's not really sceintific and won't make money in the long run, but it's a reasonable way to make sure you don't lose what you started with.
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Old April 22nd, 2005, 11:15 AM
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Or, at least to loose no more than you started with I've got the same attitude with "winnings" when it comes to ratholeing them. But, I will in a nanosecond dip into my original stash or even into my pocket if I have a lot out in the circle and have an advantageous split or double down (or preferably BOTH). Those are the hands that I play and pray for in BJ....and often the ones that end my sessions



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Yes, learn to count cards

anyways, this is the method I used to use when I was a BS player.....

I'd walk in with so much, then I'd keep playing until I doubled it, then I set the first half of my money aside and said that I would not touch it again for the night.

So say I walked in with $100, if I got up to $200, I set the original $100 aside and only played with the $200 I just made, if I made another $100, I set the half I was playing with aside and played with that $100 so I effectivly had a "bank" that I just kept putting money into, and if I lost the $100 I was playing with, I'd up and leave. It's not really sceintific and won't make money in the long run, but it's a reasonable way to make sure you don't lose what you started with.
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