Sexy Female AP

[BJWinner]

I'm a young female with an "innocent" face. Is this good cover? Will I need to use any other cover? The reason I ask is because whenever I go to the casinos, I seem to attract a lot of attention. I know that it's wise to stay under the radar if your a card counter.

I've only been to the casinos a few times, but every time I sit down to play, a crowd starts to form right behind me. Even if the casino is really slow that day. When I asked the guys I went with why people watch me play, they said it's because they think I'm hot.

It's not just the players that watch me, the pit bosses seem to be interested also. I've even been hit on by some.

Is all this attention OK?

[eps6724]

Oh, I just can't WAIT to see the responses to THIS post!!!

[Kaiser]

We won't really be able to give you any specific information about your built-in AP camo until we can see what we're dealing with here.

Several photos of your face from the front and side, shots of your body from all angles, and in a variety of outfits ranging from bathing suits to business attire. Videos would help too, to give us an idea of your demeanor and how you carry yourself. A video of you with your peer group might help too, to let us see how you compare to girls of a similar age. Maybe a video from a hot tub party, pillow fight at a slumber party, etc.

You can't really go asking questions like this without providing some decent background info. Post some photos, videos, and diary passages and I'd be happy to offer my expertise!

[Brock Windsor]

Originally Posted by BJWinner

Is all this attention OK?

If they're watching you and not your play, it won't hurt unless it distracts from your personal ability to play with an advantage (assuming you can). Maybe a hard-up PB will even give you some extra comps or you can distract a smitten dealer for a 'coloring-up bonus'. You didn't disclose your level of play or the games you play in, but since you've only been to a casino 'a few times' they probably don't consider you a threat and they may be right.
BW

[ChefJJ]

Originally Posted by Kaiser

We won't really be able to give you any specific information about your built-in AP camo until we can see what we're dealing with here.

Several photos of your face from the front and side, shots of your body from all angles, and in a variety of outfits ranging from bathing suits to business attire. Videos would help too, to give us an idea of your demeanor and how you carry yourself. A video of you with your peer group might help too, to let us see how you compare to girls of a similar age. Maybe a video from a hot tub party, pillow fight at a slumber party, etc.

You can't really go asking questions like this without providing some decent background info. Post some photos, videos, and diary passages and I'd be happy to offer my expertise!

Been a while, huh?

[EasyRhino]

Originally Posted by Kaiser

pix plz

Thanks Kaiser, it had to be said. I'm surprised it took until the third post!

But seriously winner, I think being cute can let you get away with a lot, especially at lower stakes. I think Ian Anderson wrote in his old book, Turning the Tables in Las Vegas, about a cute cheerleader-looking woman who he actually recruited. Of course, that was the 70's, and times were more paleolithic.

It's never a good idea to think that you don't need cover. And in fact, if you were betting at fairly serious levels, I'm not sure if a wholesome Barbie image would really fly, you'd need a different sort of "act" (how many high-rolling women do you see at the blackjack tables?... exactly).

One thing that I think you can milk a long way is asking for advice from guys, because you'll probably get a ton volunteered, most of it bad. But if you get multiple people chiming in (get the pit bosses involved), you can pick and choose among whatever works best for that situation "Should I stand on this one?" "Does that mean the next hand will be luckier?" "should I play two hands to change the flow?" etc.

Another suggestion would be to practice a lot so that counting and playing become automatic so you can do it even while talking about totally unrelated things, like clothes or shoes or puppies or pillow fights or whatever girls talk about when they're not counting cards.

oh, and some lady pits are going to hate your guts. For instance, if I was a Pit critter, and there was some young hipster doofus dude at the table with his spikey hair, slinging around big bets and attracting a crowd of women, I would enjoy nothing more than pounding him into the ground.

[BJWinner]

Thanks for your responses. I would be happy to post a pic, but of course, I don't want my cover blown. If it's possible, I will private message a pic to someone who's trustworthy and you can take his word for it.

Brock Windsor: In case you don't recall who I am, take a look at my intro: Introduction from an AP Wannabe.

This may be hard to believe, but most people underestimate my intelligence because of the way I look, until they get to know me.

EasyRhino: I don't look like Barbie, in case you want to know, and the topics I discuss with my friends are politics, philosophy, and literature, to name a few.

Sorry if I seem a little defensive, I just don't like being stereotyped.

[ihate17]

Originally Posted by BJWinner

I'm a young female with an "innocent" face. Is this good cover? Will I need to use any other cover? The reason I ask is because whenever I go to the casinos, I seem to attract a lot of attention. I know that it's wise to stay under the radar if your a card counter.

I've only been to the casinos a few times, but every time I sit down to play, a crowd starts to form right behind me. Even if the casino is really slow that day. When I asked the guys I went with why people watch me play, they said it's because they think I'm hot.

It's not just the players that watch me, the pit bosses seem to be interested also. I've even been hit on by some.

Is all this attention OK?

BJWinner

Under the general category, in a thread, "You got to be kidding", I just posted about my niece, she is in her mid thirties now, but since finishing college she has been a great card counter who has made quite a bit of money playing the game.
She is beautiful, about 6 foot tall and an ex college athelete, to this day she gets tons of male attention wherever she goes. Today she is a successful business woman and a mom, but when it comes to blackjack, people like her sit down at the table with an advantage. You might lose that advantage eventually but it is there. Of course, it might not work with female pits, so you should generally play on tables that are being watched by male pits.
Many of my gender are still under the misconception that "girls can't count".
They will be watching you but not watching your game.

A little smile and asking the attentive pit for advice and then doing what you should do anyway helps. If his advice was correct, you thank him if you win, if you lose he will be saying he is sorry. If his advice was incorrect, you go with "female intuition" and if you win well your intuition worked, if you lose you tell him you should listen to the "expert."

Ask him for comps, he probably will trip over himself to comp your dinner. Always smile and act like you are having fun. Do not stare at the cards. Eventually, you will be able to glance at a table full of cards and be able to adjust your count almost instantly.

There is a female advantage.

ihate17

[GeorgeD]

Originally Posted by BJWinner

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EasyRhino: I don't look like Barbie, in case you want to know, and the topics I discuss with my friends are politics, philosophy, and literature, to name a few.

Sorry if I seem a little defensive, I just don't like being stereotyped.

I was thinking at the tables you could play the air-headed woman with some money or a rich husband. The playing dumb should generally take the heat off, and seeming like you have some bucks would make big bets less noticed. Even better if you can play the spoiled, bored wife of somebody with bucks.

You can discuss politics later, stick to shoes, fashion and puppies at the tables. :-)

Add that asking for advice as suggested, and go against it when it's wrong especially as an index play with statements like "I have a hunch" I should split these 10's. Recently saw a cute, drunk someone air-headed woman do that with all the guys saying "noooooooooooo!" She won the double on a bust. They just all laughed, but I'm thinking maybe she knew something,

[Rspeirsmlb]

Winner, from the sounds of it....your EV would skyrocket, or you could even just quit counting altogether and you could make more $ without counting....why don't you just act like you don't have any more money to play and give a sad puppy dog face so old retarded men will give you chips...Haha guarantee it would work.