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Old August 29th, 2007, 06:44 PM
k4ir0s k4ir0s is offline
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Default Fallsview Casino (Niagara Falls)

Im thinking about making my frist trip to Fallsview Casino, since its in my area. What are the rules, how much decks do they play with, is it hand shuffled and do they have 5$ tables?

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Old August 29th, 2007, 08:09 PM
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I believe it's all 8 decks or CSM's. Terrible games, probably not even worth playing.
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Old August 29th, 2007, 08:11 PM
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How about the old Casino Niagara?

About CSM's, this link says otherwise http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/appendix10.html , the chart shows that it actually lowers the house edge.
Is this true?

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Old August 29th, 2007, 10:53 PM
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I believe it's all 8 decks or CSM's. Terrible games, probably not even worth playing.
Fallsview has about 12 shoes left. 8d s17 das, pen is garbage. Last time I was there they were cutting out over 2 decks. Casino Niagara has only 1 shoes game left. HL pit is 6d s17 das $50 min. Mid shoe entry is allowed.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 12:54 AM
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How about the old Casino Niagara?

About CSM's, this link says otherwise http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/appendix10.html , the chart shows that it actually lowers the house edge.
Is this true?
A CSM reduces the cut card effect slightly, but is unbeatable using counting. Walk across the bridge and play in Seneca. 8deck, S17, DOA, DAS, 75% pen spread to as many hands as you like, lots of open tables and the dealers are MUCH faster. 6 deck in the high limit area. This still isn't a very good game but MUCH better then you'll find at Fallsview or Niagara.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 01:27 AM
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fallsview's game is beatable. however the only way to do it is to wong HARD. also make sure you go at only non busy times, weekday mornings. even sunday early morning is fine. don't even think about going on friday or saturday cause its just a waste of time. early morn there might be 5 min tables. but honestly it doesn't matter if your max bet is more. you just wong in and leave when the count tanks.
Good luck, let us know how it goes.
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Old September 2nd, 2007, 12:05 PM
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A CSM reduces the cut card effect slightly, but is unbeatable using counting. Walk across the bridge and play in Seneca. 8deck, S17, DOA, DAS, 75% pen spread to as many hands as you like, lots of open tables and the dealers are MUCH faster. 6 deck in the high limit area. This still isn't a very good game but MUCH better then you'll find at Fallsview or Niagara.
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Yes. Seneca Niagara is better.

The only thing I like about Fallsview is that the dealers are usually more laid back ... ok if you want to relax. Was there a week or so ago for a concert and played a little. Only a few Non-CSM (only saw one hand shuffled), and even in the afternoon, I recall seeing one $10 table, two $15 and the rest were $25. The $10 were tough to get a seat in the afternoon .... It got worse in the evening being hard to get a $15 seat. Always hard to sit at whatever non CSMs!

Casino Niagara is ALL CSM but you can find $5 tables early on weekday and easy to get $10 later.

Seneca has $10 tables weekday afternoon, and you can almost always find $15 spots evening and weekend ... sometime you can still sit at a $10
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