Help with betting!

[k4ir0s]

With a 1000$ bankroll, using hi-lo.
What should my bet spread look like?
What should be my betting unit?
What should my max bet be and when should i lay it down?

I'd appreciate any help I can get, im still a bit new to this.

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by k4ir0s

With a 1000$ bankroll, using hi-lo.
What should my bet spread look like?
What should be my betting unit?
What should my max bet be and when should i lay it down?

I'd appreciate any help I can get, im still a bit new to this.

At least learn all the necessary questions you need to ask

Like what game you are playing, dealt to how much, with what rules, with what minimum bet and how comfortable you are with the liklihood of losing all your bankroll betting that way.

If it's an AC shoe game with a $5 min, probably just don't play.

[k4ir0s]

Sorry, dint think it would matter. I'd like to play it safe, but not too safe.
The rules are 8D S17 DAS about 75%pen.
10$ tables(Is that ok with 1000$ bankroll?)

[EasyRhino]

If you wanted to have a nice profit margin on an 8d game (in a play all situation... 8d is miserable for play all), you'd want something like a 20x spread.

To keep the risk of ruin low on a fixed bankroll, you'd want your max bet to be only 1% of your total bankroll.

So a min bet of .50 to a max of $10 would be the way to go. Good luck funding that.

Instead, you'd be better off wonging heavily, trying to never play a negative count, and having a bet of around, say, $25.

If you're really trying to build a bankroll from that $1000, the risk is high and the profit are low, I'd recommend two options instead:
1) a job
2) online bonus hustling (you can do some damage with a grand if you're patient)

[blackwater1776]

A good resource is Snyder's "Blackbelt in Blackjack". It's got a pretty good chapter in there on nothing but bankroll and bet spread. Also, he goes over in some of the standard count systems that have the spread and stuff built into them. It's a good book for beginners and for that matter anyone else interested in the game.

Good luck.



http://www.amazon.com/Blackbelt-Blac.../dp/0910575053

[k4ir0s]

Originally Posted by EasyRhino

If you wanted to have a nice profit margin on an 8d game (in a play all situation... 8d is miserable for play all), you'd want something like a 20x spread.

To keep the risk of ruin low on a fixed bankroll, you'd want your max bet to be only 1% of your total bankroll.

So a min bet of .50 to a max of $10 would be the way to go. Good luck funding that.

Instead, you'd be better off wonging heavily, trying to never play a negative count, and having a bet of around, say, $25.

If you're really trying to build a bankroll from that $1000, the risk is high and the profit are low, I'd recommend two options instead:
1) a job
2) online bonus hustling (you can do some damage with a grand if you're patient)

I always here you say 8D are so bad, and no one should be playing them. Isn't the house edge for 8D only about 0.1% more than a 6D.

Like AutomaticMonkey said here http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/show...highlight=1000
"6D is only marginally better than 8D. True, it takes longer to get to a good count, but the good count lasts longer. You really want to be Wonging out of any shoe game, and backcounting when practical."

Anyways, I see alot of people starting with a BR just as small as mine. Wasnt 1200 your gambling BR "I've only had about $1200 (replenishible) dedicated solely to gambling".

[eps6724]

Originally Posted by k4ir0s

True, it takes longer to get to a good count, but the good count lasts longer. You really want to be Wonging out of any shoe game, and backcounting when practical."

A 'good count' is useless, unless that's where you START. (Wong in). The FAVORABLE cards are in the deck at a 'ggod count', sure. But if they don't come out (i.e. the count starts to drop) what darn difference does it make? You're STILL going to be making bets HOPING that they are coming out. And the longer the count 'stays good', the longer you're laying out big bets HOPING that you'll get those good cards for the count to drop. (And the dealer keeps getting 5 card 20's!)

PLEASE take their advice. They're not kidding, and these two have the experience to show for it. Wong in when possible, wong out when necessary. As for me, as soon as I can, I'm going to DD and NOT look back!

[k4ir0s]

Originally Posted by eps6724

A 'good count' is useless, unless that's where you START. (Wong in). The FAVORABLE cards are in the deck at a 'ggod count', sure. But if they don't come out (i.e. the count starts to drop) what darn difference does it make? You're STILL going to be making bets HOPING that they are coming out. And the longer the count 'stays good', the longer you're laying out big bets HOPING that you'll get those good cards for the count to drop. (And the dealer keeps getting 5 card 20's!)

The point is that 8D isn't that much worse than 6D. He acts like its a 6:5 game.

Originally Posted by eps6724

PLEASE take their advice. They're not kidding, and these two have the experience to show for it. Wong in when possible, wong out when necessary. As for me, as soon as I can, I'm going to DD and NOT look back!

Who said I wasn't gonna wong in and out? I was asking about my bet spread, betting unit etc.

[21forme]

8D is a lot worse than 6D. Besides the fact more 6D shoes turn positive, you CAN play-all with a positive expectation w/6D.

[eps6724]

Originally Posted by k4ir0s

Who said I wasn't gonna wong in and out? I was asking about my bet spread, betting unit etc.

My apologies for coming across so grumpily. But, well...today I'm grumpy. I've been fighting the 'play all/wong in/out/bet spread game a lot lately, and it's getting depressing! ( I keep finding myself on the LOW side of EV, especially at + counts. Now I see why people go from play all to wong to shuffle. I'm thinking it's time to seriously head that way, myself!

Good luck, and again my apologies.