Decreasing Your Bet

[darrislance]

Suppose you are playing bj and the count calls for a bet increase, so you do. Then, so happens, you push with the dealer which leaves your increased bet in the circle. However, now the count suggests that you decrease your bet. Just wondering how you guys go about retracting your excess chips from the betting circle without completely blowing your cover to the dealer or the pit? Or does the pit even watch for behavior such as this?

[geneticfreak]

For me it depends on how much of a decrease the count is calling for. If it's only one or two units, I just let it ride. If I'm sitting on a fairly full table and everyone draws 2 card 20's or BJ and the count plummets by 7 or 8, I don't have any shame in pulling my bet back.

[Cardcounter]

If I want to decrease my bet I will just pull my chips of the bet and put fewer in the circle. If they ask me why I will say I'm nervous with that much money out there. Or the last hand almost gave me a heart attack. I think that it is much easier to get away with dramatically decreasing your bet than dramatically increasingg your bet. I might go from betting a $100 to betting $10 but I would never go from betting $10 to $100.

[21forme]

I never pull back (or increase) on a push. It's too obvious what you're doing.

[geneticfreak]

Actually, I should qualify what I said. In an extreme drop in count, I'll pull it back if the rest of the table does - helps me look more like them.

[ihate17]

Originally Posted by 21forme

I never pull back (or increase) on a push. It's too obvious what you're doing.

Watch other players, watch non counters. I think you are wrong here.
Very often a non counting player puts a big bet up, get a 20 and lands up pushing. An upset look on his face or a comment makes it clear he is not happy with a push and feels he will not get two good hands in a row, so he reduces his bet.
Now if the same guy pushes with a 17 he is very happy and will leave his big bet out.
Other times a guy bets big, has an 18 or 19 vs a dealer stiff. The dealer hits something like a 16 and pushes the guy on a hand the guy thought he would win, he pulls back on his bet.

This is kind of the guide I use on my bet after a push and the count going down some. In my mind I still look like another ploppy and it has worked.

ihate17

[aslan]

You can always pull back your big bet, saying, "A dealer win always follows a push!" As if you have some special ploppy knowledge of the secrets of blackjack play!

[TENNBEAR]

Originally Posted by aslan

You can always pull back your big bet, saying, "A dealer win always follows a push!" As if you have some special ploppy knowledge of the secrets of blackjack play!

That is what I do as well, when I lower my bet I will make a comment like all I am getting is junk, or this dealers hot. When I raise my bet, I will say when the dealer takes four cards to make her hand she will bust this next hand. or something as totally supertitious. I keep my bets as close to the count as reasonable but I change my bet constantly, with capping and pullback with lesser value chips. So the dealer and pitt are accustomed to me changing my bets.

[InPlay]

Originally Posted by darrislance

Suppose you are playing bj and the count calls for a bet increase, so you do. Then, so happens, you push with the dealer which leaves your increased bet in the circle. However, now the count suggests that you decrease your bet. Just wondering how you guys go about retracting your excess chips from the betting circle without completely blowing your cover to the dealer or the pit? Or does the pit even watch for behavior such as this?

Pull your chips off. Everyone thinks you are been watched. You are NOT. There are very few people who win at BJ and I am sure people posting on board are not them. They would all be playing BJ instead of posting dribble and hypetical situtations that don't exist.

[SilentBob420BMFJ]

Originally Posted by 21forme

I never pull back (or increase) on a push. It's too obvious what you're doing.

i agree with ihate17, your paranoid.. unless there is only 1 casino you go to, some people are way too paranoid, especially when betting reds/greens in a 6 deck game..