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September 16th, 2007, 05:06 AM
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Impossible to happen, Yet it did Play
I was playing DD pitch sitting at first base with two other players when I got Blackjack on my two unit bet. The dealer paid me immediatly, but failed to pick-up my cards. The dealer continued on and busted one player as the other one split his hand, inwhich increased the count for a four unit bet so I capped my two unit bet to four, and pulled back my one unit win, while the dealer paid the guy with the split at third base. When she turned back to me she said, I thought I paid you, I was stunned as the dealer quickly paid me blackjack the second time, only this time on my 4 unit bet, for a total of six units. The same dealer later drew a five card 21 and announced she busted, and paid everbody at the table, I think I was the only one at the table that even saw it.
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September 16th, 2007, 10:22 AM
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"Karma"
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Originally Posted by TENNBEAR
I was playing DD pitch sitting at first base with two other players when I got Blackjack on my two unit bet. The dealer paid me immediatly, but failed to pick-up my cards. The dealer continued on and busted one player as the other one split his hand, inwhich increased the count for a four unit bet so I capped my two unit bet to four, and pulled back my one unit win, while the dealer paid the guy with the split at third base. When she turned back to me she said, I thought I paid you, I was stunned as the dealer quickly paid me blackjack the second time, only this time on my 4 unit bet, for a total of six units. The same dealer later drew a five card 21 and announced she busted, and paid everbody at the table, I think I was the only one at the table that even saw it.
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It's been my experience, that the Blackjack Gods will get even, if you take money that doesn't belong to you. Now maybe if I were betting black chips, I would be tempted to test the "Gods"
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September 16th, 2007, 01:39 PM
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It's been my experience, that the Blackjack Gods will get even, if you take money that doesn't belong to you. Now maybe if I were betting black chips, I would be tempted to test the "Gods"
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To paraphrase Winston Churchill; We have determined what you are,now we can determine your price.
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September 17th, 2007, 11:35 AM
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I think that quote was from Noel Coward not Winston Churchill.
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September 17th, 2007, 12:37 PM
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I would have pocketed the chips and left after a hand or two. You didn't do anything illegal; it was dealer error. But, 10 free units is 10 free units. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
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September 17th, 2007, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tedloc
It's been my experience, that the Blackjack Gods will get even, if you take money that doesn't belong to you. Now maybe if I were betting black chips, I would be tempted to test the "Gods"
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clearly your experience is very limited. a good AP will never be shorted on payouts. and if you're referring to variance accounting for you taking miss payouts in your favour and somehow making sure that you lose more money via normal play then may the BJ gods be with you, because reason certainly isn't.
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September 17th, 2007, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tedloc
It's been my experience, that the Blackjack Gods will get even, if you take money that doesn't belong to you. Now maybe if I were betting black chips, I would be tempted to test the "Gods"
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Tedloc I was playing with green units and without offending anyone the whole reason for learning to count was to get away from those Gambling Gods, Hunch Plays, and House advantage. I also on the same trip, different session, in a good count I had put a double down with a max bet out and won 12 units, in my excitment I pulled back my win first. Then to see the dealer re-deal the cards before I could pull back my double bet left in the bet circle. The count had tanked, and I lost the 12 units. My fault, I should have pulled back my bet before pulling my win back. The point, if the dealer makes a mistake in my favor I don't sweat it. I know that I will also make mistakes in their favor, I wish I did not but I do. If I were to feel guilty for taking the casino's money, then I should give-up counting and go back to playing BS. However as an advantage player I will take advantage of every weakness in the game, short of cheating, including dealer mistakes
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September 17th, 2007, 08:07 PM
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They actually let your bet stand in two stacks? I've never seen that.
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September 17th, 2007, 08:30 PM
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The dealer is just trying to make a living, like all of us and your actions put that dealers job in great jeopardy. It is not so much the mistake on the face of it, certainly a new dealer, but the issue to the EYE as to....intent.
If I were you I would have quietly called this error to the dealers attention. This dealer, with the mistakes you mention ,could *appear* to be working with a player, (you).
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September 17th, 2007, 10:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhale
clearly your experience is very limited. a good AP will never be shorted on payouts. and if you're referring to variance accounting for you taking miss payouts in your favour and somehow making sure that you lose more money via normal play then may the BJ gods be with you, because reason certainly isn't.
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Assuming that there are a lot of incorrect payouts and that you will catch the short ones, the overpays are part of your AP mission. It won't create bad karma, it is the good karma. zg
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