casinos in niagara

#1
iv recently mastered bs. and started card counting. i havent yet been to a casino. iv been at it a few months. i want my first expierance to be positive. i dont mean money wise, i dont care. i just want to know which of the three in niagara have to best percetage to beat it. in this i mean penatration (75%) or better and bettin spreads. starting at table min-w.e, and now i may add a SHOE game. i plan on spending a week down there to practice so i want to know in advance
 
#2
iv recently mastered bs. and started card counting. i havent yet been to a casino. iv been at it a few months. i want my first expierance to be positive. i dont mean money wise, i dont care. i just want to know which of the three in niagara have to best percetage to beat it. in this i mean penatration (75%) or better and bettin spreads. starting at table min-w.e, and now i may add a SHOE game. i plan on spending a week down there to practice so i want to know in advance
 

shadroch

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#3
While I haven't been up there in a few years,I believe most of the casinos there now use CSMs,which pretty much eliminate card counting.
 

Brock Windsor

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#4
Niagara Casinos

Seneca offers the best blackjack, it is still not great, but better than the Canadian side. 8deck, 75% pen, DOA, DAS, S17. 10-500 min-max, sometimes 5-500 on week days. High limit room is 6 deck 100-5000 same rules. Lots of spots open and faster dealers.
The two Canadian casinos are more tourist oriented and have a pile of CSMs. The few shoe games they have are crowded 8 deck tables with little better than 60% pen and $25-500 min-max. Of the Cdn casinos Fallsview has far superior customer service and staff. Niagara has really gone downhill since Fallsview opened. Since none of them seem willing to compete by offering good games or comps I suspect Niagara will eventually drive away most of its patrons. It has become the casino people end up in when they are looking for the other one and find Niagara by mistake.
BW
 

Jeff25

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#5
Seneca is also putting in CSM's. Last time I was there I counted 4. Recently I have heard that the CSM's are spreading to every pit.
 

GeorgeD

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#6
Jeff25 said:
Seneca is also putting in CSM's. Last time I was there I counted 4. Recently I have heard that the CSM's are spreading to every pit.
Someone here said they were there a few months ago, and it was all CSM. I was there last month and also saw only four. Not to say that doesn't mean they're planning more.

I'd agree with Brock's analysis. Casino Niagara is all CSM's and only a few non-CSM at Fallsview. Still those 8 deck games at Seneca aren't easy to beat.
 
#7
Brock Windsor said:
Seneca offers the best blackjack, it is still not great, but better than the Canadian side. 8deck, 75% pen, DOA, DAS, S17. 10-500 min-max, sometimes 5-500 on week days. High limit room is 6 deck 100-5000 same rules. Lots of spots open and faster dealers.
The two Canadian casinos are more tourist oriented and have a pile of CSMs. The few shoe games they have are crowded 8 deck tables with little better than 60% pen and $25-500 min-max. Of the Cdn casinos Fallsview has far superior customer service and staff. Niagara has really gone downhill since Fallsview opened. Since none of them seem willing to compete by offering good games or comps I suspect Niagara will eventually drive away most of its patrons. It has become the casino people end up in when they are looking for the other one and find Niagara by mistake.
BW
Fallsview Casino and Casino Niagara are Sister casino's... so they aren't in competition with each other
 
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