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Old October 1st, 2007, 04:01 PM
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My home casino usually sends me a coupon for $5. Even when I wasn't playing they'd still send me coupons. Two a month - $5 a piece. Whatever. I'd cash it in during one of my bi-weekly sessions there.

Recently I have been on a swing of positive variance like I've never had before -- I am up almost 800 units in the past 6 weeks. I have been giving them a lot more action -- about 3 times a week -- no heat -- and on top of that I am constantly at their craps tables. I have lot a good chunk of change at craps.. I always show my card at craps and I only show it at BJ when a pit boss asks me if I have a card.

The coupon for this month: $5 Kind of an insult.

Do you think maybe they're just keeping it consistent or are coupons based on how much action you give? It probably also doesn't help that I have been kicking the crap out of them too. Just curious.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 04:15 PM
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$5 shows you how much they appreciate you winning

if it was a huge comp, id be paranoid that they just wanted to get you there to kick you out for good
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Old October 1st, 2007, 05:07 PM
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I suspect one local joint has a max weekly coupon of $15. I used to get a $10 coupon, then I started getting a $15 coupon... and I don't think there's a higher level.

On the other hand, at another local joint that gets bigger action (Barona), they send me weekly $10 coupons (up from $5). But I sat next to a super-diamond (or whatever) player, and he pulled out his weekly coupon, which was for $125.

With coupons like that, pretty soon you're talking real money.

Just remember not to let the quest for coupons distract too much attention from the quality of your game, or in the case of your home casino, your longevity.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 03:06 PM
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Some places just send the same coupons out to everyone regardless of how much they play. Usually these are small things like a $5 Match Play so it's at a betting level which all their customers can use.

Other places take care to carefully track your action and send out customized coupons based on your actual play. These places are less likely to insult a black chip player by sending them a couple random $5 Match Plays.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 10:38 PM
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Coupons are cool, although you really have to work for them at my casino. You have to cut out paper coupons from the newspaper, then you have to eat at the buffet (which is like 15 dollars American, a lot for a kid like me ^_^), THEN they give you your 5 dollar coupon for every person that ate at the buffet. Pretty cool really, especially when you were planning on gambling anyway. Plus the seafood there is to die for =D
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Old October 4th, 2007, 12:09 AM
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There once was a casino with a decent blackjack game in the middle of nowhere in Riverside County in CA. They would send me 6 $5 coupons for the month, soometimes useable on any day, other times just weekdays.
Earlier this year they bad their 6 deck game poor and their double deck game unplayable and I no longer bothered to make the long trip to nowhere.
The mailers continued, but the one for this month was raised to 6 $25 coupons, three for the first half of the month and three for the second, only on weekdays.
They seem to be trying to entice me back.
With poor games and a 300 mile round trip to get there, I might stop in on the way to another casino, play my match plays, check the casino out for other advantage plays and if none found go on to the other casino. Wonder if that would stop the coupons?

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Old October 4th, 2007, 09:13 AM
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I got a letter in the mail last night from one small local Indian casino informing me of changes to their Elite-level player's club evaluation system. But it was pretty vague, and I didn't even know I was in their elite-level player's club.

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middle of nowhere in Riverside County in CA.
It's Riverside county, so I'm not sure how you'd tell the difference anyway
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Old October 4th, 2007, 03:04 PM
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It's Riverside county, so I'm not sure how you'd tell the difference anyway
Drive half hour past the middle of nowhere and then get lost. You will pull right into the parking lot of Soboba Casino.
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Old October 8th, 2007, 04:49 AM
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These places are less likely to insult a black chip player by sending them a couple random $5 Match Plays.
Maybe "less" likely but not unheard of. I played a session a few years back at a casino where I lost 19K in about 2 hours. The only mailers I have received from that dump were a $59 room coupon (good only on weekdays), 2 $25 matchplays for my birthday month and some invites (no room food or beverages) to some lame concerts and events that would be damn near impossible to fill the seats at...Think "Indian and the White guy" and thats the quality of events I am talking about.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:46 PM
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i highly doubt your comps have anything to do with how much you won/lost, but some or maybe all casinos (so i have read) have 3 skill levels they can set your comps to on the computer in the pit, which will directly effect how much you have to play to get a comp, and i always wondered, if they see you with a basic strategy sheet in front of you, do they change your level from "regular" to "good"? and if they see you splitting 4s against an ace, do they put you at "bad"?

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$5 shows you how much they appreciate you winning

if it was a huge comp, id be paranoid that they just wanted to get you there to kick you out for good
that would be hilarious if a casino cared that much about an AP.. from what i have been told from casino employees, you really have to be hammering them, meaning spreading 1-4 at a $10 table isnt going to get you booted

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I suspect one local joint has a max weekly coupon of $15. I used to get a $10 coupon, then I started getting a $15 coupon... and I don't think there's a higher level.

On the other hand, at another local joint that gets bigger action (Barona), they send me weekly $10 coupons (up from $5). But I sat next to a super-diamond (or whatever) player, and he pulled out his weekly coupon, which was for $125.

With coupons like that, pretty soon you're talking real money.

Just remember not to let the quest for coupons distract too much attention from the quality of your game, or in the case of your home casino, your longevity.
u know whats odd? i got a $50 coupon a few $20 coupons (all different times of course) for playing $3 blackjack back in winter, and i probably only played 20 hours to earn each of those coupons, but its possible this could have included like 1 hour of roulette, and this was also back when i played video poker a lot too, but it was nickel vp, and they really dont give u much for vp anyways, because they seem to think the cash back you earn on your players card for playing the machines is enuf.. 100 hours of playing nickel vp, and i earned $9 cash back, so..

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