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Old October 1st, 2007, 10:22 PM
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Good Evening Everyone, Im new to the forum. Im interested in the "Speed counting" System. I would like to get you all's expert opinions on it and how it works.

Also How much heat will I receive at the Casino If I do this? Whats the Best Betting Range, and Whats the Best Way to cover what im doing?

One more thing, this is my biggest question, Do I have to US PerfecT Basic Strategy while using this system or do i alter it?

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First off,I'm far from an expert,but here is my opinion.
Speed Count is a good beginners system. Easy to learn and fairly effective.
Its not bad for your first trip to a casino or a vacation.
However,it is not a system to learn for the long-run.No serious BJ player should stick to using this once they get the hang of playing.So ultimately,the time spent learning it can be said to have been wasted,as it won't be used that much. But I think its a very good intro into the world of card counting.
I'm not aware of casinos putting much heat on speed counters,so you need no cover.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 10:40 PM
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First off,I'm far from an expert,but here is my opinion.
Speed Count is a good beginners system. Easy to learn and fairly effective.
Its not bad for your first trip to a casino or a vacation.
However,it is not a system to learn for the long-run.No serious BJ player should stick to using this once they get the hang of playing.So ultimately,the time spent learning it can be said to have been wasted,as it won't be used that much. But I think its a very good intro into the world of card counting.
I'm not aware of casinos putting much heat on speed counters,so you need no cover.
Do I have to US PerfecT Basic Strategy while using this system or do i alter it?
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 09:39 AM
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I'm not aware of any alterations tat go with Speed Count. Possibly Insurance,but not sure.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 07:28 PM
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Anybody else has any opnions? just Curious?

Anyone know How much heat will I receive at the Casino If I do this? Whats the Best Betting Range??
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I'm not aware of any alterations tat go with Speed Count.
Use a count-adjusted BS. BUT better NOT to use SC. zg
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 08:05 PM
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what is speed count?
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 08:12 PM
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what is speed count?
Speed count is basically the same thing as the OPP system. There are a lot of old threads about both systems. It is a simplified counting strategy that only counts high cards vs. all cards. It is a very weak system but it can give you a slight advantage in some games.

I completely agree with Shadroch. Speed count is not much easier than KO or HiLo and it is only about 33% as powerful. The profits will be tiny and the bankroll requirements are huge. It is a good system for recreational players and tourists who only play a few hours each year for fun, but no serious players use it.

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Speed count is basically the same thing as the OPP system. There are a lot of old threads about both systems. It is a simplified counting strategy that only counts high cards vs. all cards. It is a very weak system but it can give you a slight advantage in some games.

I completely agree with Shadroch. Speed count is not much easier than KO or HiLo and it is only about 33% as powerful. The profits will be tiny and the bankroll requirements are huge. It is a good system for recreational players and tourists who only play a few hours each year for fun, but no serious players use it.

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Sonny, How much heat will I receive at the casino If i do this?
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Sonny, How much heat will I receive at the casino If i do this?
What sized bets will you be making? What kind of casinos will you be playing in?

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