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Old October 2nd, 2007, 03:18 PM
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Misunderestimating Ron Paul's Support

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The media, neoconservatives and some Democrats just don't understand why Ron Paul's supporters are so excited, dedicated and diverse. At the most recent PBS debate in Baltimore, the camera panned to catch the first African-American female fighter pilot in U.S. history applauding enthusiastically when Dr. Paul suggested we should bring the troops home from Iraq and every other country they currently occupy. Neoconservative bloggers are aghast at Ron Paul's increasing success as are the neoconservative gatekeepers. This is a truly satisfying result since it was the neoconservative hijacking of the Republican Party which has helped to further decimate our once-great Republic.

In one comment, written as a response to a post at the quintessential neoconservative and freedom-hating blog, Red State, a reader unsupportive of Paul points out the obvious for most neoconservatives, that Ron Paul's ability to raise a million dollars in seven days is "[expletive deleted] scary."

The neoconservative movement is now officially in its dying throes and yet neoconservatives do not take notice. A good example of this can be witnessed in Newt Gingrich's threat to join the crowded field of GOP Presidential candidates. (Eye of) Newt has been touting his ability to bring together a goodly number of intellectuals who will help solve America's problems. What is at the forefront of those problems? Why, it is the threat of Islamic law being instituted in the United States if we were to pull out of Iraq. Seriously, that is what he's saying.

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Old October 2nd, 2007, 03:36 PM
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Misunderestimating?
Does that mean overestimating? I guess technically misunderestimating would mean estimating more than or equal to the correct amount?

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Does that mean overestimating? I guess technically misunderestimating would mean estimating more than or equal to the correct amount?
In the case of this article, misunderestimating means underestimating the opponent's strength,
and that things change and people do wise up, for the wrong reason(s). zg
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NFLSystms.com: "Ron Paul is the one that has the highest value[for betting]."
Here's the smart-money bet of the year -
"Now is the time for Ron Paul supporters to start banging sites like World Sports Exchange, which still have Paul with +2400 odds for a payout potential of $2400 on every $100 bet when he wins," O'Brien recommends. World Sports Exchange betting odds on Dr. Paul can be found here. "They (WSEX) even have Huckabee ahead of Paul. Ron Paul supporters should be outraged and let them have it, even with a $5 bet!"
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Ron Paul Odds Have Been Slashed to 6 to 1: Now Favored Over Romney
Public pushes Ron Paul odds down even further this week
Forget those political polls. Throughout time (at least the last decade), oddsmakers have had an uncanny knack for predicting political races. It's not so much that they have a crystal ball, rather the lines adjust based on public action. When it comes to political betting, the public action is presumed to represent votes. The theory being that someone who is likely to vote on Mitt Romney probably won't bet on Ron Paul winning.
The gambling public seems to believe that 2008 Presidential candidate Ron Paul stands a very good chance of winning, so much so that this past week odds on Dr. Paul have been slashed further from 8 to 1 down to 6 to 1, with the potential payout of $600 for every $100 bet. (see betting odds at Sportsbook.com).
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Misunderestimating?
That's a reference to a Bushism.

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Smear Campaign Against Ron Paul Goes Into Overdrive
Corporate media peddles ridiculous conspiracy theories that Ron Paul's meteoric popularity is entirely fake

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Friday, Oct 12, 2007




The smear campaign against Presidential candidate Ron Paul has hit an all time high with the corporate media today ludicrously declaring that the Congressman's immense worldwide popularity is all a huge con emanating from Dr Paul's own office.

Rupert Murdoch owned Australian outlet News.com.au has today disseminated the most insidious and farcical report concerning Ron Paul to date.

...more - http://infowars.net/articles/october...21007Smear.htm
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Conversations with PBS
10/12/07

Paul Envisions Smaller Government, Less Global Intervention


As part of an ongoing series of in-depth interviews with presidential candidates, Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, explains his vision of limited government, decreased U.S. intervention in conflicts abroad and details his stance as an anti-war Republican.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Congressman Ron Paul, thank you for being with us.

REP. RON PAUL (R), Texas: Thank you for having me.

JUDY WOODRUFF: You are somewhat of a sensation among young people in this country. They are -- you've broken all records for Web searches. You're on MySpace, Facebook, YouTube, I guess more than just about any other candidate. With all due respect...

REP. RON PAUL: Be nice.

JUDY WOODRUFF: ... you're 72 years old, how do you explain it?

REP. RON PAUL: Young ideas, a fantastic idea about individual freedom and allowing people to do what they want and take care of their lives, their lives belong to them, and get the government off their backs, and offer them low taxes, and make sure I never mess around with the Internet. Don't tax the Internet, and don't regulate the Internet.

You know, freedom is a very popular idea, and young people love it, and they're open to ideas. And they like principled answers to our problems.

And older people seem to be stereotyped. You know, they get set in their ways, and they're not as open to the ideas of freedom, yet, to me, freedom is a relatively new idea. It was an experiment, you know, with our country, but we have forgotten about it, and I'm reminding them about this great experiment of freedom, and they love it. And I am just so delighted when I see the young people coming.

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October 13, 2007

Ron Paul Wins Another Alabama Straw Poll By Landslide!

Posted by Chris Brunner at October 13, 2007 12:04 PM

For some reason, news of landslide victories for Ron Paul doesn't get old for me. This time, I've had the privilege of observing the action in person. Today's straw poll is being held in Jefferson County, Alabama! The results are as follows:


Ron Paul 115 (58%)
Fred Thompson 31 (16%)
Rudy Giuliani 18 (9%)
Mitt Romney 16 (8%)
Mike Huckabee 8 (4%)
Duncan Hunter 5 (3%)
John McCain 3 (2%)
Cort 1 (1%)
Undecided 1 (1%)
Sam Brownback 1 (1%)
Tom Tancredo 0 (0%)
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most Ron Paul supporters are like me, they had given up on the political process in this country long ago and now suddenly they have been given hope. They have suddenly found someone that they can get behind and support, someone that is not just the lesser of two evils, and someone with an ideology they believe in. This ideology I speak of is the ideology of the United States of America. Ron Paul believes in the ideals this country was founded upon and often points to the constitution of our great land, the supreme law of the land that the government is supposed to follow, and tells us that our government should be following the words of the wise men that wrote it.
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I will repeat myself and tell you what I told your colleague, people are fed up. They are fed up with being lied to.

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