sometimes it pays to tip

[rap3094]

I was playing BJ a couple of weeks ago, early in the morning, I was playing head to head for appox three hours, I never take insurance, it got to the point that she showed an Ace up so many times she stopped asking me, I told her I never take insurance. I had been tipping her all night long, so this one hand I had bj and she had a Ace showing, she turns over her bj and says sorry dealer mistake. I did not ask you for insurance, she never called the pit boss. I had a $250 bet down. I know it was because of the tipping. That could have never happened in AC a couple of months ago when you had to take insurance by putting up half your bet in the insurance circle.

[shadroch]

Did she pay you?What is the point? That tipping helped both of you get a BJ?

[toastblows]

Originally Posted by shadroch

Did she pay you?What is the point? That tipping helped both of you get a BJ?

ditto

[EasyRhino]

So... she treated the hand as a push, as if you had placed insurance?

How much do you think you tipped over that three hours. Were you acting generlly agreeable, or being a douche?

Also, when she flipped over the card, did she use the little peek device, or forget to use it? Did you have a pat hand, and maybe she was just playing out her hand without the peek? She really might have broken a minor piece of procedure.

[shadroch]

It was a push. They both had BJ.

[mdlbj]

Originally Posted by rap3094

I was playing BJ a couple of weeks ago, early in the morning, I was playing head to head for appox three hours, I never take insurance, it got to the point that she showed an Ace up so many times she stopped asking me, I told her I never take insurance. I had been tipping her all night long, so this one hand I had bj and she had a Ace showing, she turns over her bj and says sorry dealer mistake. I did not ask you for insurance, she never called the pit boss. I had a $250 bet down. I know it was because of the tipping. That could have never happened in AC a couple of months ago when you had to take insurance by putting up half your bet in the insurance circle.

Or if the count dictated, you would have made even money with an insurance bet of half your original bet.

In this instance, she walked away with your tip money and you got to keep your bet. Yay! Dont tip.

[Dyepaintball12]

Dealers work hard. Tipping a little now and then is not the worst thing in the world.

[Greg]

I think the posters in this thread missed what the OP implied: that the dealer gave him even money on his blackjack even after she flipped over the ten in the hole. If my understanding of his post is correct, this is a very risky action on the dealer's part.

[mdlbj]

Originally Posted by Dyepaintball12

Dealers work hard. Tipping a little now and then is not the worst thing in the world.

Dealers turn cards over and add them up and do payouts. At the same time, help the casino that they are employed at, try to take your money using a built in advantage.

[Greg]

Originally Posted by mdlbj

Dealers turn cards over and add them up and do payouts. At the same time, help the casino that they are employed at, try to take your money using a built in advantage.

I strongly disagree. Stating that dealers "turn cards over and add them up and do payouts" implies that their job is basic and easy. While dealing blackjack isn't the most difficult job in the world, dealers are often subjected to abusive customers, large quantities of secondhand smoke, rude and incompetent bosses, and an expectation to maintain a very high level of speed and accuracy. And to say that they "try" to take your money is ridiculous. I've rarely encountered a dealer who enjoyed watching people lose. At the same time, many of them don't seem to care either way, but it's not like they took the job to take your money. Dealers are just trying to earn a living, and at many places, without your tips, they'd be making minimum wage at best. Tip the dealer. Yes, it's -EV, but tipping a waiter is -EV as well.