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Old December 6th, 2007, 11:19 AM
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On my recent trip to Vegas I had the good fortune to hit a royal flush. It was my first one in all the times that I happen to play. I usually play as a break in the action or just poor bj table conditions at the casino I happen to be visiting. I was wondering how many of us at this site play vp and have hit royals. blackchipjim
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Old December 6th, 2007, 12:26 PM
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I only play if Im going to the casino to drink free booze. I think an AP VP player gets a natural royal once every 40-45000 hands. I have never had one, but seldom play.
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Old December 6th, 2007, 12:57 PM
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I got 3 full houses and 1 four of a kind within 15mins of each hit. But I have not hit a royal yet.
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Old December 6th, 2007, 03:16 PM
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Last week a casino gave me $70 free slot play. With $20 left I hit a royal straight flush on this $5 machine playing one "coin." I won $1,250. 5 coins would have won $20,000. It was my first RSF ever. I got plenty of grief in the forum for not playing a $1 machine 5 coins at a time. lol I'm still happy.

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Old December 6th, 2007, 04:09 PM
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I have hit a royal flush 1 time on a $5 VP machine. Wish i wouldve played 5 coins instead of 1. I only play VP when tables are crowded or I want to dump a couple bucks back after a big haul on the BJ tables
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Old December 7th, 2007, 04:23 AM
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You're better off playing 9-5 Jacks or Better and betting full coins than only betting one coin.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 10:06 AM
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I play a lot of VP these days. I have plenty of $4K royals, a few $8K, several progressives between $4K and $10K. I'm still waiting for my first $20K royal, but I bet I've played four cycles or so at the $5 level. Bad time for a drought to show up.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 05:45 PM
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I play a lot of VP these days. I have plenty of $4K royals, a few $8K, several progressives between $4K and $10K. I'm still waiting for my first $20K royal, but I bet I've played four cycles or so at the $5 level. Bad time for a drought to show up.
Do you find your advantage in a combination of comps and occasional jackpots, or are you able to stay to the good based on winnings alone? Or perchance, are you behind for your lifetime of play?
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Old December 10th, 2007, 11:03 AM
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Do you find your advantage in a combination of comps and occasional jackpots, or are you able to stay to the good based on winnings alone? Or perchance, are you behind for your lifetime of play?
I play many games that are positive once cashback is included, and many more games that have various promotional or marketing advantages. I've been quite successful, even including my royal drought at the $5 level.

In general, if a casino offers any game that has a return of at least 99.5%, you can find some way to get an edge through multiple point days or marketing mailings. Large amounts of coin-in can generate some outstanding mailings, that easily overcome the game edge.
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Old December 15th, 2007, 01:09 AM
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I play many games that are positive once cashback is included, and many more games that have various promotional or marketing advantages. I've been quite successful, even including my royal drought at the $5 level.

In general, if a casino offers any game that has a return of at least 99.5%, you can find some way to get an edge through multiple point days or marketing mailings. Large amounts of coin-in can generate some outstanding mailings, that easily overcome the game edge.
Could you describe some examples of the multiple point days and marketing mailings. Also, I assume that this will only work in certain top notch facilities.
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