Coolers????

[bigjimswoman]

Just returned from Harrahs in Metroplois and did lousy. On Thursday, made $350 with a $60 buyin. Tried to repeat it and was well on my way to doubling my money, then a woman sat down. She did not say a word to anyone and kept her eyes on the dealer. She f#@$ed every hand she played. If she had a 13 with a bust card showing, she hit, if she had a 13 with a ten showing, she did not hit. You could tell she knew what she was doing, she did not make any eye contact with anyone but the dealer. Usually an inexperienced dealer will apologize for wrecking the table, not this biotch. So my question is, do casinos use coolers if a table is doing well?:

[mdlbj]

You ever hear...Whatever dude. La-hu za her. My drill SGT use to say " Wanna go home, suck your mamas titt* eat your milk and cookies. Play your game. She had no effect on what you were doing.

[moo321]

When you say cooler, do you mean someone bringing in a stacked deck?

[creeping panther]

Ever see the movie?

Nothing would surprise me, especially in a Res. casino. These things happen,
people see you winning and want to jump in and get in on the action.

What another player does will not affect you as an AP or ploppy.....most of the time, not ALL the time.

Creeping Panther.

[RJT]

Originally Posted by creeping panther

What another player does will not affect you as an AP or ploppy.....most of the time, not ALL the time.

Creeping Panther.

Crap - they never effect you play in any substantial way. Unless they know what the next card to be played is, screwing around with basic strategy will make no difference to you what-so-ever. They are just as likely to draw a card that would have hurt you as a card that would have helped you, so they don't know anymore than you do what the results of that mistake will be.

RJT.

[aslan]

There is a such thing as a cooler. Did you ever meet anyone who never made a good bet? Just follow him around and bet the opposite of everything he bets on. haha You'll either turn him into a winner, or make yourself a big winner. lol Really, nothing anyone can do will affect your game except cheating, and that's usually farfetched for modern day large casinos.

[bigjimswoman]

Thanks for all your responses, but her plaly did affect the table. She consistently took the bust card or did not hit appropriatley. I will have learn to walk away next time someone plays that badly. Also, is this not a forum where we can voice our concerns? But MDLBJ, you have a nice day.

[shadroch]

I can't believe there exists a casino that would be worried about a $350 loss.
You are evidently a new player and have quite a bit to learn.Thats okay,we all started as new players.The first thing you need to learn is there is no such thing as a bust card.Unless you are playing with marked cards,you have no idea what the next card is. It might be the card that bust the dealer,or it might be the card that makes his hand.There is no logical reason to leave when a player is playing badly,it doesn't effect you in the long run.Thats the second thing you should learn.
The information needed to become a good player is here,but you need to forget most of what you think you know and learn the game the right way.
"The Blackjack Zone" by Elliot Jacobson is a great book for learning the correct ways to think and play BJ.

[creeping panther]

As a long time highly experienced AP player, specializing in DD games, I will guarantee you that at certain counts what another player does, WILL affect your game, (that is the outcome of a particular round). Not all that often do these situations arise, but THEY DO and WILL.

I would expect that you would realize that.

Creeping Panther.

[ihate17]

Originally Posted by bigjimswoman

Thanks for all your responses, but her plaly did affect the table. She consistently took the bust card or did not hit appropriatley. I will have learn to walk away next time someone plays that badly. Also, is this not a forum where we can voice our concerns? But MDLBJ, you have a nice day.

Let us say your cooler friend is at third base and has 14 while the dealer is showing a 4. From what you are saying it seems that this woman would hit an unknown card and then the dealer would turn a 14 also and hit something like a 7.
If this is the situation, you can say there are two cards only to be played, a 7 and an unknown card but the problem is the cooler, the dealer and no one else knows if the 7 is the first card to come out or the second card. This is one reason why bad players help and hurt you equally. Should the 7 have been the first card out then this cooler woman would have helped you but unfortunately it was the second card and she hurt you. The chance of it being first or second card are 50/50, exactly the same as her hurting or helping you on this hand.

The one thing the bad player does do for certain is hurt themselves.

As far as your other question about this board. The board is made up of many advantage players, some wannabee advantage players, some novice advantage players but also non advantage players who have been subjected to the superstitions that dominate the losers on blackjack tables. Some of us will nicely inform you that it is just superstition and some of us will throw some sarcasim into the mix because most often if one checks through old threads these things have been discussed.

We like bad players because they keep casino profits high, enabling us to skim a bit off the top.
We like bad players who take extra hits in negative counts, referred to as card eaters.
We dislike bad players who take extra hits in positive counts because they cause fewer positive rounds.
We dislike bad players who expound superstitions loudly to others about bad players and the Mystical Magical Flow of The All Knowing Cards (the cards have no idea if they will hit your hand or the dealers)

Finally, many of us will take time and try to give good answers to questions from people who appear to want to better their game.

ihate17