Red 7 count Vs. HI-lo ??

[neemo6]

I was just reading about the red 7 system, and it seems pretty simple especially for a begginer since u dont have to convert to a true count and for insurance dont have to keep a seperate 10 count. Im currently practicing w/ the hi-lo system. I would like to hear from ppl using the red 7 count and how well it works out for them. Also how well does it compare in shoe game vs. the hi-lo. Thanx any info would be appreciated.

[seeC]

If your good at HiLo then changing to red 7 should be an easy transition.
Mathematically speaking Red 7 is slightly more accurate than HiLo and I guess every little advantage helps.

[KenSmith]

I haven't looked at comparative numbers between Red 7 and Hi-Lo lately, but I'll be amazed if Red 7 is more accurate. Any unbalanced count generally trades accuracy for simplicity.

Balanced counts offer a lot more flexibility with strategy variation, and that's the main value of switching from an unbalanced count to Hi-Lo.

For starting counters, an unbalanced count is a fine way to begin. I like KO better than Red 7, but IIRC the two are pretty close in ability. Once a player decides he or she will be playing more frequently, I'd advocate a switch to Hi-Lo.

[hiimdoug]

According to the creator of the Red 7 counting system , Arnold Snyder, “The easy Red Seven Count gets 80% of the potential gain available from the Hi-Lo Count and other counts that are significantly more difficult to learn and use. It is the strongest professional-level card-counting system ever devised for its level of simplicity and ease of use.”

Personally, if you plan on card counting only a few times a month for entertainment using a system like the Red 7, or as Ken mentioned the K-O, is a fine idea. But, if you plan on playing more, and you hope to truly supplement your current income go with the Hi-Lo. When you dive into a system like the Hi-Lo you are forced to learn a lot about the game of blackjack and this information will become useful down the road as there are situations that will present themselves that your overall knowledge of that game can exploit.

[seeC]

http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/counting/OSRating.htm

[KenSmith]

Interesting. It'll take some time to figure that out.