Videos on card steering?

[AnIrishmannot2brite]

Something that duplicates the average casino conditions?

I can't sit in a casino all night and review the shuffle techniques etc. And i don't want to take a class on it. Probably don't exist anyway.

A video would be helpful.

[RJT]

Originally Posted by AnIrishmannot2brite

Something that duplicates the average casino conditions?

I can't sit in a casino all night and review the shuffle techniques etc. And i don't want to take a class on it. Probably don't exist anyway.

A video would be helpful.

The Blackjack Science 'Advanced Techniques' DVD covers it alongside shuffle tracking and sequencing, but it does have several mistakes in it.

RJT.

[Sonny]

Yeah, Semyon’s DVD has a little section on steering. The DVD is just a basic introduction to those techniques and it leaves out a lot of the details, but there ain’t much else out there in terms of videos. You’ll probably learn a lot more playing with a deck of cards than you will from a video anyway.

For standard cutting tricks you don’t need to worry about the shuffle. That has more to do with sequencing and advanced steering.

-Sonny-

[RJT]

Originally Posted by Sonny

Yeah, Semyon’s DVD has a little section on steering. The DVD is just a basic introduction to those techniques and it leaves out a lot of the details,

-Sonny-

I think that's a very generous description, although i did think the information was useful if you knew how to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

Merry Christmas Sonny.

RJT.

[MAZ]

Originally Posted by AnIrishmannot2brite

Something that duplicates the average casino conditions?

I can't sit in a casino all night and review the shuffle techniques etc. And i don't want to take a class on it. Probably don't exist anyway.

A video would be helpful.

1. Stay away from Semyons advice. He'll give you just enough to make you think you know something, but at the same time be just wrong enough to screw you if you try it.

2. If you can't, or don't want to put in the time to do it anyway, forget it. Just keep counting and looking at big jugs, you might make a few pennies and enjoy the scenery along the way.

[RJT]

Originally Posted by MAZ

1. Stay away from Semyons advice. He'll give you just enough to make you think you know something, but at the same time be just wrong enough to screw you if you try it.

2. If you can't, or don't want to put in the time to do it anyway, forget it. Just keep counting and looking at big jugs, you might make a few pennies and enjoy the scenery along the way.

Totally agree with you on this Maz. His DVD's have more holes in them than your average sieve. They gives a slightly better example of steering than that oh so classic novel 'Busting Vegas', but they certainly shouldn't be considered any place for good advice. Hell look at the production! This guy pumped these things out just to cash in on the last of his under-whelming blackjack career. He doesn't play of practice before his 'seminars' and frankly i could have shot a better video than he did.
On point 2, steering the back card is really tough, to the point that it's not really worth it unless you are a pro and even then there are easier ways to gain a stronger advantage.

RJT.

[GlenRuss]

I'm glad I read these posts. I was about to go on Semyon's site and order his DVD.
I intend to go to some casinos New Years Day. CT. or N.J., not sure yet. I figure the tables should be pretty crowded and as I am "waiting" for a seat, I will be getting recon as I watch the shuffles.
RJT you mentioned easier ways to get a stronger advantage, would you mind sharing what you mean please?

[RJT]

Originally Posted by GlenRuss

I'm glad I read these posts. I was about to go on Semyon's site and order his DVD.
I intend to go to some casinos New Years Day. CT. or N.J., not sure yet. I figure the tables should be pretty crowded and as I am "waiting" for a seat, I will be getting recon as I watch the shuffles.
RJT you mentioned easier ways to get a stronger advantage, would you mind sharing what you mean please?

I wouldn't say that Semyon's DVD's are worthless - they provide a practical example of the basics for a more visual learner - but you need enough information regarding the techniques external to the DVD to know what do to, as if you follow what he tells you do to you won't win.
As to the more powerful techniques - hole carding. Still very hard to master and really only a skill that a pro can use, but compared to the difficulty of steering the back card - you can get away with a lot more.

RJT.

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by RJT

...they provide a practical example of the basics for a more visual learner - but you need enough information regarding the techniques external to the DVD to know what do to, as if you follow what he tells you do to you won't win.

That was the biggest problem I had with the DVD. It was just a video of his seminar, and he would say things like “When you’re steering a card you have to be careful not to misplay a hand that will hurt you too badly. Always misplay the hands that will take away the least EV. Check your packet for that information.” The problem is that the DVD doesn’t come with the packet of information…at least the DVD that I got for $10 on eBay didn’t. Without that information the technique is pretty much useless.

-Sonny-

[RJT]

Originally Posted by Sonny

That was the biggest problem I had with the DVD. It was just a video of his seminar, and he would say things like “When you’re steering a card you have to be careful not to misplay a hand that will hurt you too badly. Always misplay the hands that will take away the least EV. Check your packet for that information.” The problem is that the DVD doesn’t come with the packet of information…at least the DVD that I got for $10 on eBay didn’t. Without that information the technique is pretty much useless.

-Sonny-

I can get the rest of the charts from the seminar if you want them Sonny?

RJT.