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Old January 4th, 2008, 08:16 PM
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Hi, I am new to this forum and very excited to come across this wealth of knowledge. I have two questions regarding automatic shufflers, but first I will share a little bit of my history. I started playing casino blackjack about two years ago and absolutely fell in love with the game. I do my best to play a strict basic strategy. I was a cruise not too long ago and spent a lot of time in the casino. All of the blackjack tables had automatic shufflers, which I have never seen before. Every time the table was done with a hand the dealer just threw the cards back in the machine. Do these machines have any effect on the basic strategy? I played my worst blackjack ever on the ship, but honestly I don't think it is because of the shufflers. Also are automatic shufflers a very coming thing? I want to learn how to count, but I am not sure I want to put forth the effort if all casinos will have automatic shufflers.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 08:21 PM
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It sounds like what you had was continuous shufflers (CSM), where every hand or two has the cards recycled.

There's no real effect on the house advantage. It's kind of like dealing with a freshly-shuffled deck, every hand. However, the speed of play is usually quicker, so you probably lose faster.

Biggest bummers of CSMs is that you can't count counts against them.

Contrast with an automatic shuffler (ASM), where the game is dealt out of the usual 6 or 8 decks shoe, but there is also a device that shuffles the next shoe while you're playing the first one through. These also speed up the pace of the game substantially.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 08:28 PM
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Thanks for gettting back to me. You are right it was a continous shuffler.
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Old January 5th, 2008, 01:42 PM
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mcaquatic, could you tell me brand of the shuffler.
As I know the most common continous shuffler in the world is the
One2six from Shuffle Master.
regards rainer
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Old January 5th, 2008, 01:48 PM
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under circumstances, the One2six is beateble.
This is no scam.
Sometimes I have a very good day, yesterday was very bad,
i didn't hit the expected cards.
I have to do longtime experiances.

the best rainer
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Old January 5th, 2008, 05:00 PM
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Elhombre, sorry I did not think to look at the make of the machine.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 10:19 PM
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how is it beat able
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