N 0 for DD games

[White Guy]

Without flying to NV I am having a hard time finding a DD game where the penatration is good enough to get my N 0 down around 20,000. My local game sounds okay DD H17 DA2 DAS but they will never deal past 52 cards and when running #'s from B jack attack it seems marginal at best. Even if they dealt 62 cards I would still have a N0 of 27,000. I would like to find a DD game with good rules and good penatration to get my N0 to below 20000. I know there are some in Vegas but I haven't found one with a minimum bet of less than 50$. I am looking to play a spread of 25-200 and with so few games like that I feel I will get barred from them all within a few months if I try to put in any serious time. Any suggestions from other DD players would be awesome.
Thanks

[SD Padres]

I don't want to say too much, but go...."downtown". You will find it if you look around. That's all I'm going to say.

[Automatic Monkey]

You've got the right idea- DD with 50% pen is like playing a poor shoe game. You might as well play shoe, more tables and less heat, and you can backcount shoe games.

Try Mississippi.

[White Guy]

I have a friend who works on gas pipelines in Mississippi. Maybe I will give him a visit. According to the CBN most of the casinos that seem to have decent games say easy to get barred though. Should be fun! hahaha
THANKS

[shadroch]

Just listen to Petula. She'll steer you in the right direction.

[Sonny]

Your N0 is a comparison between your EV and your SD. Therefore your playing style has just as much to do with your N0 as the game does. If you can get a bigger advantage while maintaining relatively small variance you will lower your N0. For example, if you backcount that DD H17 DAS 50% game and only play at >0 TC then your N0 drops down to about 18,500. Or you could play from the shuffle and leave at –1 TC and get a N0 of 17,500 by always playing 2 hands.

Although selecting good games is essential, sometimes there are ways to make a mediocre game playable.

-Sonny-

[White Guy]

That is a great point. I wish I was able to backcount DD in my area for that reason. Unfourtanately the casinos in my state suck so much that there is only one DD per casino and the spread is 25 - 200. If I am bored and don't want to make the tripelsewhere I could inlist another player to play for me though and still achieve that though. Thanks for the tips as always.

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by White Guy

I am looking to play a spread of 25-200 and with so few games like that I feel I will get barred from them all within a few months if I try to put in any serious time. Any suggestions from other DD players would be awesome. Thanks

I don't know - what's your fascination in the first place? Sounds like you want the fewest hands because you think you will be barred by then?

You said you've played for a few years vs shoes with some success. I'm not sure I'd quit my day job to do this.

You don't mention bankroll which might be the biggest consideration. How much money you think you will make betting how at what game anyway?

Not to mention the numbers from BJ Attack assume full-kelly which I wouldn't recommend anyway.