Blackjack Tracker

[SPX]

I can't find this book ANYWHERE!

Does anyone know where I can find it or possibly have a copy they'd like to get rid of?

[BJinNJ]

Amazon.com has the ISBN.
With the ISBN you can go to a library and they'll
try to get it via 'Inter-library loan'. This method
works best with large city libraries or university
libraries.

BJinNJ

[BJinNJ]

I've thought of using this method to get hold
of 'Beyond Counting'. They won't sell it to you,
but you will get to read it and take notes.
Inter-library loans can take some time, though.

BJinNJ

[SPX]

Originally Posted by BJinNJ

I've thought of using this method to get hold
of 'Beyond Counting'. They won't sell it to you,
but you will get to read it and take notes.
Inter-library loans can take some time, though.

BJinNJ

Thanks for the idea, though honestly I really doubt it could be found in any library. I know it was self-published and spiral-bound, but who knows. It is worth a shot.

[Sonny]

I’m sure there are still copies around but with such little demand they will be hard to find. We have simulation software now so the book is completely obsolete. It seems like it would be more helpful to have 50,000 randomly generated shoes on paper. That way you could use whatever playing strategy you want and have any number of people at the table. The BJ Tracker book is limited to a full table of people playing BS. You can’t adjust the rules, number of players or playing strategy at all.

-Sonny-

[BJinNJ]

at what different libraries hold.

The NYC library system is huge, as is the Library of Congress.

It wouldn't surprise me if UNLV or the Las Vegas Public Library
collects gambling books. Your local library can request a loan,
then you'll get to borrow it. Your library might have trouble
finding THE library that has your book, though.
That's what takes time.

BJinNJ

[Sonny]

I don't see any listing in the Los Anges or New York public libraries or the UNLV library for that book. UNLV has a copy of Beyond Counting, but it can't be checked out (reference copy in their Special Collections area).

-Sonny-

[BJinNJ]

I found the author's address at the bottom of a CasinoCityTimes
article at this link:

http://www.casinocitytimes.com/artic...ributorid=1354

Maybe you can get a phone number or email address from this info.
Or just write a letter.

BJinNJ

[SPX]

Originally Posted by Sonny

I’m sure there are still copies around but with such little demand they will be hard to find. We have simulation software now so the book is completely obsolete. It seems like it would be more helpful to have 50,000 randomly generated shoes on paper. That way you could use whatever playing strategy you want and have any number of people at the table. The BJ Tracker book is limited to a full table of people playing BS. You can’t adjust the rules, number of players or playing strategy at all.

-Sonny-

Yeah, but not obsolete if you want to resolve the question or whether or not hand-dealt cards shuffle and flow the same way as simmed cards/shoes. I noticed the other day that in Twenty First Century Blackjack Fred Renzey said he wanted Thomason's results applied to 100,000 hands in order to accept it.

I would think that's a pretty good sampling. Let's take a method like Jay Moore's . . . if I could put it against 100,000 hand-dealt hands from a 6 deck shoe and in the end the system proved to be an obvious loser then I promise I would never again defend the possibility that a progression system might perform differently in the "real world" than in a computer.

It would be enough to satisfy my curiosity and I really do think we OWE it to the blackjack world to settle that dispute and I would be willing to put the hours in to calculate it. The hard thing though is dealing all those hands. I've dealt about a total of 10,000 so far and recorded the results and that has literally taken me months.

With Bob's book I'd be halfway there.

[SPX]

Originally Posted by BJinNJ

I found the author's address at the bottom of a CasinoCityTimes
article at this link:

http://www.casinocitytimes.com/artic...ributorid=1354

Maybe you can get a phone number or email address from this info.
Or just write a letter.

BJinNJ

Thanks a lot for that! I actually ran across an e-mail address for him from a 2000 Casino Times article but was immediately returned as undeliverable. I guess I'll have to try snail mail!