Just was wondering...

[Kasi]

while making a recent post if anyone knew where there was a list of frequency distributions and associated EV's and maybe even the associated SD's for alot of games for neg TC's?

Something like BJA except not lumping all the the neg counts together in one line?

While I'm on the subject does BJA's data in Ch 10 exist in spreadsheet form anywhere?

And don't say go buy a sim

[EasyRhino]

Even Powersim (the free one) will give you that info if you open up the .sim file after running through the hoops.

[SystemsTrader]

Search Qfit's new site, you might find it there.
www.blackjackincolor.com

[Kasi]

Thanks to both of you for your suggestions.

[sagefr0g]

Originally Posted by Kasi

while making a recent post if anyone knew where there was a list of frequency distributions and associated EV's and maybe even the associated SD's for alot of games for neg TC's?

Something like BJA except not lumping all the the neg counts together in one line?

While I'm on the subject does BJA's data in Ch 10 exist in spreadsheet form anywhere?

And don't say go buy a sim

Wong's Professional Blackjack has some appendices with a list of frequency distributions and associated EV's for some games. i don't have access to my book now or i'd put the info in a spreadsheet. that would be interesting.
i think Wong got his info from Janec's Blackjack Statistical simulator, i think thats what it's called.

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by sagefr0g

Wong's Professional Blackjack has some appendices with a list of frequency distributions and associated EV's for some games. i don't have access to my book now or i'd put the info in a spreadsheet. that would be interesting.

Thanks WiseFrog - just what I wanted. Forgot all about those tables.

I only asked because I have a spreadsheet that uses the CH 10 BJA tables that I use just to fool around with. After I put in the first 3 columns (Freq, EV % by TC and SD by TC,) for a given table, the right side, Avg bet, W% of the game, $win/100, $SD/100, ROR, N0, DI, SCORE etc calculates itself after putting in a spread. Really those 1st 3 columns are about all you need to figure almost anything out like being ahead after x hours, trip ROR's, etc.

But sometimes I don't like the fact he lumps all neg counts into one line making neg wong-out points difficult to analyze.

Well, if I actually wonged out in neg counts rather than just play them, I might actually care

Apparently he never considered negative exit points. I forgive him lol.

So I have to GUESS

Still, obviously, I'm limited to the underlying assumptions of the tables. But it's better than nothing lol. But it's a start anyway.

It's not like I'm playing 5 different games 40 hours a month with $20K+ at risk and worried about cost of camo plays, number of players, using different counts or index plays, etc lol.

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by Kasi

I only asked because I have a spreadsheet that uses the CH 10 BJA tables that I use just to fool around with. After I put in the first 3 columns (Freq, EV % by TC and SD by TC,) for a given table, the right side, Avg bet, W% of the game, $win/100, $SD/100, ROR, N0, DI, SCORE etc calculates itself after putting in a spread.

I did the same thing! Great minds...

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/show...5578#post15578

You can also get the count frequencies from Snyder's Beat The X-Deck Game series, but it's probably more useful to use a simulator.

-Sonny-

[QFIT]

You mean like this?

[blackjack avenger]

What product is this?

Cost?

Under rules, does it have RSA?

Can it do ODP? for back counting?

Can you go into detail on the expenses section?

If you would like to talk about what features this product has beyond the BJA 3 chapter 10 charts?

Any major count?

Any indice generation? including RA?

Thnx

[21forme]

Looks like QFIT's CVCX (CV = Casino Verite and CX is Chapter 10 from BJA3.)