Flop poker - hole card strat

[weavin42]

While wondering around a casino I frequent tonight, I spotted a dealer the flashes one of their three hole cards in Flop poker about %75 of the time. Can I have an edge over the house playing with that dealer? If so how do I go about figuring a basic hole card strategy for this game?

[moo321]

Flop poker? How's it played?

[weavin42]

The wizard of odds site has a really good description of the game and payout table. Here's the link http://wizardofodds.com/floppoker.

The best thing I can come up with is using this extra piece of information to calculate something similar to pot odds (but based on the payout table) so you have more information to know if you should play your hand or not. It is also very typical for players to show their cards to each other but I don't know if it 'technically' allowed. I was going to work on the math over the weekend.

I also think team play would be best here. That is to say, several people all sit at the same table and play their hands splitting the money after the session. The more hands you have at once the greater chance you will get a hand with a high payout.

[moo321]

Boy, I have no idea how you would play this with one hole card exposed. Obviously you would bet any hand that pays. Sounds like we'd need a computer sim to figure out what 4 card hands to raise with.

[Brock Windsor]

I can't sim it but that house edge looks like way too much to beat the game. Even if you are colluding with every player regarding hand composition you can't fold or raise your pot bet and the remainder (flop bet) is a pot odds calculation, NOT a bet against the dealer hand. (so long as I interpreted the rules correctly) The house edge could definitely be lowered (you're not going to play a jack if all the jacks are in other players hands) but that was most likely considered in the game design and Im guessing the game is unbeatable. Seeing a dealer hole card is of very minimal value.

[Brock Windsor]

Originally Posted by weavin42

... The more hands you have at once the greater chance you will get a hand with a high payout.

No. The chance of you getting a high paying hand is the same. Team play would only help you fold hands that couldn't win or were less likely to win based on your additional card knowledge. You are reducing the house edge, but likely not beating the game.

[moo321]

Originally Posted by Brock Windsor

I can't sim it but that house edge looks like way too much to beat the game. Even if you are colluding with every player regarding hand composition you can't fold or raise your pot bet and the remainder (flop bet) is a pot odds calculation, NOT a bet against the dealer hand. (so long as I interpreted the rules correctly) The house edge could definitely be lowered (you're not going to play a jack if all the jacks are in other players hands) but that was most likely considered in the game design and Im guessing the game is unbeatable. Seeing a dealer hole card is of very minimal value.

No, seeing the hole card doesn't seem to be minimal. You could properly play the ante bet, and get an edge at the pot bet.