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Old February 1st, 2008, 07:30 AM
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Judge orders removal of mannequins, bars dancers dressed as Nazi leader

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil - A judge issued an order Thursday prohibiting a Rio samba group from parading during carnival with a float depicting naked bodies of Holocaust victims.
Judge Juliana Kalichszteim issued the injunction in response to a lawsuit by the Jewish Federation of Rio de Janeiro, which asked for the float be removed from this city's famed carnival parade next week, said Lara Voges, a spokeswoman for the judge

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Old February 1st, 2008, 07:59 AM
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I don't know if Brazil has a bill of rights for that matter but the float is inflammatory to say the least. There is really no value in depicting man's inhumanity to man in what I believe is a religous based festival. If nothing else out of the respect for the people and their families that were victims of the holicaust it should be banned. blackchipjim
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Old February 1st, 2008, 11:40 AM
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I don't know if Brazil has a bill of rights for that matter but the float is inflammatory to say the least. There is really no value in depicting man's inhumanity to man in what I believe is a religous based festival. If nothing else out of the respect for the people and their families that were victims of the holicaust it should be banned. blackchipjim
I agree 1000%. Anyone who has to ponder this as a freedom of expression issue has already lost their claim to membership in the human race IMHO.
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Old February 1st, 2008, 03:12 PM
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I agree 1000%. Anyone who has to ponder this as a freedom of expression issue has already lost their claim to membership in the human race IMHO.
How is the Brasilian display different then the official Holocasut Museum, with real photos, etc.? zg
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How is the Brasilian display different then the official Holocasut Museum, with real photos, etc.? zg
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How so? Because it was a celebritory occaison and not conventional mourning? It wasn't a nazi celebration. What happened to these departed victims? Did they go to Heaven? If so surely they do not mourn their past suffering. I'll reread the article but I see no difference between the float and the official museum. zg
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How so? Because it was a celebritory occaison and not conventional mourning? It wasn't a nazi celebration. What happened to these departed victims? Did they go to Heaven? If so surely they do not mourn their past suffering. I'll reread the article but I see no difference between the float and the official museum. zg
The context is important too.
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Yes, so what was the context? zg
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In her decision, Kalichszteim said carnival "should not be used as a tool for the cult of hate, any form of racism, beside the clear banalization of barbaric events."

The news article was sketchy. At least one up close observer saw it as it seemed to be offhand without actually being there. One may make fun of me all they want, but don't treat the lives of my deceased loved ones, my Mother, my Father, my sisters, my brothers, lightly. This goes despite the fact that I am not Jewish or have any known relative who was victim to the holocaust. I'm speaking as a member of the human family.
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...don't treat the lives of my deceased loved ones, my Mother, my Father, my sisters, my brothers, lightly. This goes despite the fact that I am not Jewish or have any known relative who was victim to the holocaust. I'm speaking as a member of the human family.
So, IF the Jewish holocaust was not as depicted in official history and is being used to curtail freedoms
in Euro countries and elswhere, it does not respect the deceased victims. zg
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