Oklahoma Blackjack

playBJX

Active Member
#1
I understand that the Indian casinos in Oklahoma must all deal non-banked versions of table games. Does anyone know if this is true of all the Oklahoma Indian casinos? (I know they're all Indian owned.)

How does that work? I know in California the player may allow a "non-profit" corporation to bank the player/dealers exposure. Players can pass the "dealer button" to the corporation (which is not the casino). Very confusing and hypocritical.

I've asked several people in the gaming industry, and they don't seem to be able to provide details on OK rules or procedures.
 
#2
Non House Banked Games = Ante

In Oklahoma, the tribes are only allowed to operate 'non-house banked table games' This means that any money won on the tables by the casino goes into what is called the 'players pool' and that money is returned to the guests in promotions less 10% to the state and direct costs of running the game (cards, dealers wages, etc)

Since the casino can't profit from the table win, the state allows the casinos to charge an 'ante' for each hand played on a table game. The ante is usually .50 cents but can be 1.00 per hand for larger bets. This is where the casino makes it's money and of course is a huge turnoff to any knowledgeable gamer.

Some casinos offer no ante promotions where they don't charge the ante to play. Osage Million Dollar Elm Casinos in the Tulsa area have three days a week that they don't charge ante. It's worth checking out if you're in the area.
 

WABJ11

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#3
okbulldog said:
In Oklahoma, the tribes are only allowed to operate 'non-house banked table games' This means that any money won on the tables by the casino goes into what is called the 'players pool' and that money is returned to the guests in promotions less 10% to the state and direct costs of running the game (cards, dealers wages, etc)

Since the casino can't profit from the table win, the state allows the casinos to charge an 'ante' for each hand played on a table game. The ante is usually .50 cents but can be 1.00 per hand for larger bets. This is where the casino makes it's money and of course is a huge turnoff to any knowledgeable gamer.

Some casinos offer no ante promotions where they don't charge the ante to play. Osage Million Dollar Elm Casinos in the Tulsa area have three days a week that they don't charge ante. It's worth checking out if you're in the area.
I've heard of this, and find it humorous. So where do the winnings off of the table games go? You mention promotions, what exactly does this mean?
 

Blue Efficacy

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#6
There are two card rooms in my state that are non-house banked. They do not charge antes though, they keep track of the hands dealt and take their cut per hand. Any remaining winnings go to promotions and such.
 

bigplayer

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#7
okbulldog said:
Promotions, like hot seat drawings, no ante days, if they have drawings for prizes (cars, etc)
The money is skimmed and dumped to tribal members. Why else would the casinos be so aggressive about backing off skilled players if they aren't planning to keep a chunk of the profits.
 

NightStalker

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#9
They do keep share of profit

bigplayer said:
The money is skimmed and dumped to tribal members. Why else would the casinos be so aggressive about backing off skilled players if they aren't planning to keep a chunk of the profits.
legally? Atleast that's what casino dealers have mentioned to me.. And they definitely sweat AP..
 
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