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Old February 26th, 2008, 10:15 PM
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Default Irwin Schiff's 'The Federal Mafia"

Now, free PDF download. zg


The Federal Mafia exposes every facet of the government’s illegal enforcement of the income tax – and will convince you that Organized Crime in America begins with The Federal Government – which is why the federal government has enjoined me from selling the book, so now I'm posting it for FREE!

The government doesn't want you to know what's in this book, so now you can download it for FREE! Just right click the button below, to save it on your computer. Please share it with everyone you know who will read it.

HERE- http://www.paynoincometax.com/federalmafia.htm
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 04:20 PM
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Extremely readable. zg
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This is the book banned by the fed govt. Yes, Mary, there IS censorship in America.

NOW FREE DOWNLOAD... while 75 year old Schiff sits in prison for another 10-years. zg
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Schiff, who's currently in the pen on his third criminal tax conviction, is a pathetic con artist whose crackpot tax theories have been rejected by every court that has had to waste its time listening to some poor schmuck raise them. They have no legal basis whatsoever and would possibly be comical if it weren't for the people who've been financially ruined by relying on the intellectual snake oil Schiff peddled only to find that they still owe income tax, plus penalties and interest. In fact, there are some sharks still out there pushing this crap on the gullible, the disenchanted, and the paranoid, at least until they're shut down -- see http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/Feb...8_tax_114.html

The nonsense Schiff presents is not and never has been the law, and no one has ever won a case by relying on Schiff's inane theories. This one's a 100% loser, folks.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 11:42 AM
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I'm sure the government's main concern in this book being published is all the filers who will rely on it to not pay income taxes, which in the end would be a very costly mop up job by the federal government in tracking down and prosecuting and/or fining these persons, not to mention the cost of those who do not pay taxes but go undetected. These arguments have been going on at least since the 50's in my memory and I don't know of anyone who has used such defenses successfully.
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Schiff, who's currently in the pen on his third criminal tax conviction, is a pathetic con artist whose crackpot tax theories have been rejected by every court that has had to waste its time listening to some poor schmuck raise them. They have no legal basis whatsoever and would possibly be comical if it weren't for the people who've been financially ruined by relying on the intellectual snake oil Schiff peddled only to find that they still owe income tax, plus penalties and interest. In fact, there are some sharks still out there pushing this crap on the gullible, the disenchanted, and the paranoid, at least until they're shut down -- see http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/Feb...8_tax_114.html

The nonsense Schiff presents is not and never has been the law, and no one has ever won a case by relying on Schiff's inane theories. This one's a 100% loser, folks.
Irwin only points out that THERE IS NO LAW making fed income tax mandatory, strictly voluntary. His trial was a KANGAROO COURT. zg

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This has been going on ad nauseum. We used to talk about it in the '50's. Uncle Sam is not going to entertain such arguments. You know it and I know it. We all know the intent of the legislation that established the Internal Revenue system. What's the point in being a gadfly if all it's going to do is get everyone who listens to you in trouble? He is probably half insane, and to that extent, I feel sorry for him. But it's hard to muster up tears for such an idiotic position, now nearly 100 years since the income tax was authorized. I hope he made enough money selling his books and got enough good feeling standing up to the greatest nation on earth to compensate him for the time he will now have to spend in jail. Surely his brain could have been put to something more productive and helpful to society. At least, that's the way I see it. You may differ and that's all right.
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I'm sure the government's main concern in this book being published is all the filers who will rely on it to not pay income taxes, which in the end would be a very costly mop up job by the federal government in tracking down and prosecuting and/or fining these persons, not to mention the cost of those who do not pay taxes but go undetected. These arguments have been going on at least since the 50's in my memory and I don't know of anyone who has used such defenses successfully.
Oh ya, many times over. Just not publicized. When it starts to go that way the govt. prosecutors withdraw the case with predjudice. zg
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This has been going on ad nauseum. We used to talk about it in the '50's. Uncle Sam is not going to entertain such arguments. You know it and I know it. We all know the intent of the legislation that established the Internal Revenue system.
A. There was no legislation, and
B. The IRS is NOT a govt agency.
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A. There was no legislation, and
B. The IRS is NOT a govt agency.
C'mon now. Don't be filling people's heads with this bullcrap. Congress passed the Internal Revenue Code and in it gave the Department of Treasury the right to enforce its provisions. (Sec 7801)

Here's part of its authority, as passed by Congress, the lawmaking branch of our Federal Government:

Any person who willfully attempts in any manner to evade or defeat any tax imposed by this title or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $100,000 ($500,000 in the case of a corporation), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution. (Section 7201)

The IRS is a bureau of the Treasury Department, a bonafide "agency" of the Federal Government. I have a close friend who worked for IRS, then transferred to my Commission, which was under the Department of Energy. There is no difference in status working for one or the other.

If all this is about what qualifies as an agency as opposed to a bureau or a commission, then it is a collosal waste of time. The Congress enacted laws, the IRC, that provides for the establishment of the IRS under the Dept. of Treasury. Semantical arguments to avoid payment of taxes imposed by the IRC are stupid and ill-advised, and if acted upon, may end up in court, with the subsequent imposition of a fine, jail sentence, or both.
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