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March 3rd, 2008, 02:49 PM
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Illustrious 18 for SD HiOpt1
Hi, I'm relatively new to counting. I plan on making my first trip in a few weeks to Reno. I was wondering if anybody could tell me the Illustrious 18 for single deck for the HiOpt1 count. I would appreciate it very much!
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March 3rd, 2008, 03:23 PM
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These should do the trick:
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Blackjack Count Strategy Adjustments
Cards: 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Ace
Values: 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 -1 0
1 deck, no double on splits
Hit/Stand Strategy
Dealer's Upcard
Player's Total 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Ace
Hard 21 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Hard 20 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Hard 19 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Hard 18 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Hard 17 ... ... ... ... ... ... -16 -17 -19 -6
Hard 16 -8 -8 -10 -12 -9 9 8 4 0 7
Hard 15 -5 -5 -7 -8 -8 10 9 7 3 8
Hard 14 -3 -3 -5 -7 -6 12 19 Hit 13 12
Hard 13 -1 -1 -3 -4 -4 Hit Hit Hit Hit 17
Hard 12 2 2 0 -1 0 Hit Hit Hit Hit Hit
Soft 21 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Soft 20 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Soft 19 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 18* ...
Soft 18 -14 -14 -12 -12 -16 -20 -10 Hit Hit 1
Soft 17 Hit Hit Hit Hit Hit Hit Hit Hit Hit Hit
Double Down Strategy
Dealer's Upcard
Player's Total 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Ace
Hard 11 -10 -10 -11 -12 -12 -7 -5 -3 -4 1
Hard 10 -9 -8 -9 -11 -11 -6 -4 -1 5 4
Hard 9 0 0 -2 -4 -5 3 8 ... ... ...
Hard 8 12 8 5 3 2 15 ... ... ... ...
Hard 7 20 15 10 9 10 ... ... ... ... ...
Hard 6 ... 17 13 11 14 ... ... ... ... ...
Hard 5 ... 18 14 12 15 ... ... ... ... ...
Hard 4 ... 18 14 13 16 ... ... ... ... ...
Soft 20 10 9 7 6 5 16 ... ... ... ...
Soft 19 7 4 3 2 1 13 20 ... ... ...
Soft 18 1 0 -6 -8 -8 14 ... ... ... ...
Soft 17 0 -2 -5 -10 -11 9 ... ... ... ...
Soft 16 10 4 -1 -5 -10 ... ... ... ... ...
Soft 15 13 5 -1 -5 -7 ... ... ... ... ...
Soft 14 10 5 0 -3 -4 ... ... ... ... ...
Soft 13 8 5 1 -2 -3 ... ... ... ... ...
Pair Split Strategy
Dealer's Upcard
Player's Pair 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Ace
Ace,Ace -11 -11 -11 -12 -13 -10 -8 -8 -8 -4
10,10 10 8 6 4 4 12 20 ... ... ...
9,9 -1 -1 -2 -4 -3 6 split split ... 2
8,8 split split split split split split split 10* 5* split
7,7 -14 -14 -18 split split split -16* ... ... ...
6,6 0 -1 -3 -5 -5 0* -9* -19* ... ...
5,5 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
4,4 ... -18* -20* -20* -17* -15* -16* -20* -19* ...
3,3 7 4 -1 -14 split 9* -6* ... ... ...
2,2 5 3 -3 -8 split split -20* ... ... ...
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March 3rd, 2008, 05:13 PM
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Sorry, I didn't realize you only asked for the Ill18. Here you go:
16 vs 10 = 0
15 vs 10 = 3
10,10 vs 5 = 4
10,10 vs 6 = 4
10 vs 10 = 5
12 vs 3 = 2
12 vs 2 = 2
11 vs Ace = 1
9 vs 2 = 0
10 vs Ace = 4
9 vs 7 = 3
16 vs 9 = 4
13 vs 2 = -1
12 vs 4 = 0
12 vs 5 = -1
12 vs 6 = 0
13 vs 3 = -1
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March 3rd, 2008, 09:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superman02
Hi, I'm relatively new to counting. I plan on making my first trip in a few weeks to Reno. I was wondering if anybody could tell me the Illustrious 18 for single deck for the HiOpt1 count. I would appreciate it very much!
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A. The indices for HO1 should be the same as HiLo.
B. You should use HiLo, NOT HO1. zg
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March 3rd, 2008, 10:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zengrifter
A. The indices for HO1 should be the same as HiLo.
B. You should use HiLo, NOT HO1. zg
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why is that? gamemaster from gamemasteronline (not sure how much he's respected here) said he recommends hi opt 1 for single deck
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March 6th, 2008, 03:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caliplaya209
why is that? gamemaster from gamemasteronline (not sure how much he's respected here) said he recommends hi opt 1 for single deck
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Hi-Opt I is alright for single-deck games, but as soon as you start playing multi-deck games (which is what most people play) you will start to have trouble with the ace side count. It is just too much trouble for such little advantage (if any). Eventually you will want to switch to an ace-reckoned system that will work for any number of decks. That will also free up your brain for other more profitable techniques.
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March 7th, 2008, 09:54 AM
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ill back sonny and ZG up on that - i used to use AO2 on pitch games when i could play them often. now that im relegated to shoe games most of the time, i realized for me personally, an ace sidecount became impractical, and i switch to an ace-reckoned level-2 count. follow the good advice given to you unless you plan to play 1/2D games exclusively.
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