$300M From Chavez To FARC A Hoax - Say It Ain't So!

[zengrifter]

$300M From Chavez To FARC A Hoax

Here's the written evidence, and - please say it
ain't so! - Obama and Hillary attack Ecuador...

By Greg Palast | RENSE | 3-8-8

Do you believe this?

This past weekend, Colombia invaded Ecuador, killed a guerrilla chief in the jungle, opened his laptop * and what did the Colombians find? A message to Hugo Chavez that he sent the FARC guerrillas $300 million * which they're using to obtain uranium to make a dirty bomb!

That's what George Bush tells us. And he got that from his buddy, the strange right-wing President of Colombia, Alvaro Uribe.

So: After the fact, Colombia justifies its attempt to provoke a border war as a to stop the threat of WMDs! Uh, where have we heard that before?

The US press snorted up this line about Chavez' $300 million to "terrorists" quicker than the young Bush inhaling Colombia's powdered export.

What the US press did not do is look at the evidence, the email in the magic laptop. (Presumably, the FARC leader's last words were, "Listen, my password is .")

I read them. While you can read it all in español, here is, in translation, the one and only mention of the alleged $300 million from Chavez is this:

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[shadroch]

This Hugo Chavez is really something.While he has been President for five years or so,it turns out that he's been the major money man for FARC for the past fifty years.Certainly had me fooled.

[Automatic Monkey]

What reason would Chavez have for reacting that way in defense of FARC, if he wasn't in alliance with them? And why is FARC allowed to keep safe houses 1.8 miles within the Ecuadorian border if the Ecuadorians aren't supporting them? Chavez said Colombia is the Israel of South America and he's right. Colombia is Israel, Venezuela is Iran, Ecuador is Syria and the FARC is Hezbollah.

His behavior was kind of silly actually, as I don't believe anyone thinks the weak Venezuelan military would go along with an attack on Colombia, which has US weapons and training. What I think he was doing was posturing, trying to situate himself as the new Latin benefactor of Marxism with the decline of Castro. He might want to be careful messing with Colombia because half of everything sold in Venezuela comes from Colombia. Let's see how popular he is among the masses after they've gone without food for a few days.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by shadroch

This Hugo Chavez is really something.While he has been President for five years or so,it turns out that he's been the major money man for FARC for the past fifty years.Certainly had me fooled.

VIVA CHAVEZ! zg

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The Rise of America's New Enemy
By John Pilger www.truthout.org
10 November 2005

I was dropped at Paradiso, the last middle-class area before barrio La Vega, which spills into a ravine as if by the force of gravity. Storms were forecast, and people were anxious, remembering the mudslides that took 20,000 lives. "Why are you here?" asked the man sitting opposite me in the packed jeep-bus that chugged up the hill. Like so many in Latin America, he appeared old, but wasn't. Without waiting for my answer, he listed why he supported President Chavez: schools, clinics, affordable food, "our constitution, our democracy" and "for the first time, the oil money is going to us."

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[Opinion]

Originally Posted by zengrifter

$300M From Chavez To FARC A Hoax

Here's the written evidence, and - please say it
ain't so! - Obama and Hillary attack Ecuador...

By Greg Palast | RENSE | 3-8-8

Do you believe this?

This past weekend, Colombia invaded Ecuador, killed a guerrilla chief in the jungle, opened his laptop * and what did the Colombians find? A message to Hugo Chavez that he sent the FARC guerrillas $300 million * which they're using to obtain uranium to make a dirty bomb!

That's what George Bush tells us. And he got that from his buddy, the strange right-wing President of Colombia, Alvaro Uribe.

So: After the fact, Colombia justifies its attempt to provoke a border war as a to stop the threat of WMDs! Uh, where have we heard that before?

The US press snorted up this line about Chavez' $300 million to "terrorists" quicker than the young Bush inhaling Colombia's powdered export.

What the US press did not do is look at the evidence, the email in the magic laptop. (Presumably, the FARC leader's last words were, "Listen, my password is .")

I read them. While you can read it all in español, here is, in translation, the one and only mention of the alleged $300 million from Chavez is this:

MORE- http://rense.com/general81/farc.htm

What was it you said? Most terrorism is caused by nation states?
So there is a possible link between the FARC and Venezuela, makes sense since both are left wing.

It escapes me Hezebolah? is backed by Iran.

Iran is backing insurgent groups in Iraq.

Let's not forget Che Guivera? was killed while trying to start a revolution outisde of Cuba though I forget what nation.

Why did Chavez meet with the Iranian president? Oh yeah, both have declared they are enemies of the US.

Auto Monkey is correct. Chavez is trying to become the new Marxist leader and will continue to cause problems so he can retain power because he will claim Yankee Imperialists are the cause of all the problems so he can power grab. Same old script.

I also read a report that the FARC backed the election of the Ecuador? president. It would be in the FARC's interest to back left wing leaders in various nations around Colombia who are friendly or who look the other way.

Let's not forget who the FARC are. They are narco terrorists who finance their terrorist war with kidnappings and drug trafficing. Because of the money from drug trafficing they are heavily armed and have kidnapped US citizens for ransom.

There is also a report that perhaps US intelligence helped Colombia target the FARC members killed recently. If that is true then I think good job. If the FARC want to kidnap US citizens then they declared war on the US. So they get what they get. Yes, this is 911 fallout. The US is now paying attention to terrorists groups who have attacked us because we did not pay enough attention to a little terrorist group called Al Quada before 9/11.

It's a different world. The FARC has kidnapped Americans in the past. They are enemies of the US. If Chavez wants to rattle sabers at the border with Colombia he may find himself out of power if war starts with Colombia who's army is twice the size of Venezuelas and US trained. Let's not forget he has threatened to stop oil shipments to the US. Unfortunately our dependence on foreign oil makes just the statement almost an act of war.

Since Chavez has proven to be anti Democratic then any true liberals would like to see him removed and Democracy return to Venezuela. Oh wait, I am sorry he is Democratic. He had elections to make himself president for life. LOL I was very surprised that he lost.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by Opinion

Since Chavez has proven to be anti Democratic then any true liberals would like to see him removed and Democracy return to Venezuela. Oh wait, I am sorry he is Democratic. He had elections to make himself president for life. LOL I was very surprised that he lost.

How did he prove to be anti-democratic? zg

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by Opinion

Auto Monkey is correct. Chavez is trying to become the new Marxist leader and will continue to cause problems so he can retain power because he will claim Yankee Imperialists are the cause of all the problems so he can power grab. Same old script.

I also read a report that the FARC backed the election of the Ecuador? president. It would be in the FARC's interest to back left wing leaders in various nations around Colombia who are friendly or who look the other way.

Let's not forget who the FARC are. They are narco terrorists who finance their terrorist war with kidnappings and drug trafficing. Because of the money from drug trafficing they are heavily armed and have kidnapped US citizens for ransom.

I don't think you read Palast's article, so I snipped some -

Colombia's invasion into Ecuador is a rank violation of international law, condemned by every single Latin member of the Organization of American States. And George Bush just loved it. He called Uribe to back Colombia, against, "the continuing assault by narco-terrorists as well as the provocative maneuvers by the regime in Venezuela."

Well, our President may have gotten the facts ass-backward, but Bush knows what he's doing: shoring up his last, faltering ally in South America, Uribe, a desperate man in deep political trouble.

Uribe claims he is going to bring charges against Chavez before the International Criminal Court. If Uribe goes there in person, I suggest he take a toothbrush: it was just discovered that right-wing death squads held murder-planning sessions at Uribe's ranch. Uribe's associates have been called before the nation's Supreme Court and may face prison.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by Automatic Monkey

Chavez said Colombia is the Israel of South America and he's right: Venezuela is Iran, Ecuador is Syria and the FARC is Hezbollah.

Go team go! zg

[zengrifter]

Bush And Uribe Vs Chavez And Correa

By Stephen Lendman
RENSE | 3-10-8

Call it another salvo in Bush v. Chavez with Ecuador's Raphael Correa as a secondary target and Colombia's Alvaro Uribe as a proxy aggressor. The Ecuadorean incursion was no ordinary cross-border raid. It was a made in Washington affair that escalates a nine year attempt to remove the Venezuelan leader and return oligarchs in the country to power. It also threatens two regional leaders who know what they're up against in Uribe and Washington, "friendly" handshakes in the Dominican Republic notwithstanding. The situation is far from settled, and here's how events unfolded so far:

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