1-20+ spreads, how?

[gustN]

Im just curious how you manage to "get away" with 1-20+ spreads? Doesnt it create loads of heat even if you have a the best act ever?

The only act I can figure actually could be "believable" would be something as the count going up drastic in a very very short time while you lose/have lost lots of hands and acting more and more frustrated. Acting VERY frustrated and angry on the (hopefully last lost hand) when the count is sky high and then bet the max bet as if you where a ploppy trying to win it all back (and loads more) in one hand.

Correct me if I have been floating way out in open space...

[mjbballar23]

Originally Posted by gustN

Im just curious how you manage to "get away" with 1-20+ spreads? Doesnt it create loads of heat even if you have a the best act ever?

The only act I can figure actually could be "believable" would be something as the count going up drastic in a very very short time while you lose/have lost lots of hands and acting more and more frustrated. Acting VERY frustrated and angry on the (hopefully last lost hand) when the count is sky high and then bet the max bet as if you where a ploppy trying to win it all back (and loads more) in one hand.

Correct me if I have been floating way out in open space...

Hit and Run is usually the best plan for getting away with this. I always take a break after ending the shoe with a big bet. BTW i got away with a 1 - 30 spread for 7 months in the same casino. This is a casino with a lot of young rich kids that do crazy things at the table so i think the casino personel put me into that group. Playing unrated helps too,

[Sonny]

Even the best act will only get you so far. You will eventually get barred. The best way to get away with that kind of action is to not be seen.

-Sonny-

[EasyRhino]

Agree that the easiest way is hit and run, unrated. Leave after your bets get big, win or lose. In a shoe game, it may be a while before you get to this point anyway.

[runningaces]

Hit and run most definately, if your real lucky the dealer won't yell out "checks play", if your that lucky and the pit didn't see you then you should be alright. I still would suggest to make a log of your betting sizes at each casino you play at and make notes on heat, profit/loss amount of time. If your gonna be an AP you will want this info. As you get real good at it, you will start playing different shift times at these casinos for even less heat.

[gustN]

Since were talking BJ :P, do you know of any online casino with BJ with actual shuffled electonical decks and no randomized card-dealing? If you know what I mean? I have heard something about webcam-dealers etc. But do you know of any? And are they relyable?

I found it hard to believe but it wont kill me to ask.

[ihate17]

I have done the above spread more than a few times. I has always been shortly before the shuffle and it has not mattered if it was part of a good steaming act or just getting the max out in a good situation, I do leave that casino for that shift (at least) right when the shuffle point comes.
Even if the pit is not watching at that moment, someone in the eye might and it going to be up there for them to review and as they are reviewing I am long gone.

ihate17

[moo321]

Quite possible to get away with for a short time. Depends on how full the place is, whether the boss is paying attention, whether surveillance is good or not, etc.