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March 31st, 2008, 10:05 PM
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betting spreads
jeeze i know this is repetative (im in my infant stage of blackjack) and if i you want me to look harder i will but i was wondering about spreading your bets and how you should as the count varies. Atm i am just using basic High-low and am playing a game where dealer hits soft 17's and you can double after splits. umm porbably about 75% deck penetration should the unit bet correspond to the TC like tc of 2 means i bet 2 units?
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March 31st, 2008, 10:13 PM
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spread for a 6 deck shoe should be at least 1-12 more if u can i guess
max bet at true count of 5
count is >=1 bet one unit
count 2 bet 2 units
count 3 bet 4 units
count 4 bet 6 units
count 5 bet 12 units
i read that somehwere........
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March 31st, 2008, 10:45 PM
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jeeze i know this is repetative
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I promised somebody I would be nice about this sort of thing, so just let me say this...
Near the bottom of the main index page you can click on a link called Currently Active Users. This shows not only what the people signed on are doing, but also the lurkers. It is very common to see lurkers reading threads dating back to 2005 & 2006. They must be getting a very comprehensive blackjack education!
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April 1st, 2008, 07:00 AM
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That's a very poor game.
TC 0: 1 unit
TC 1: 2 units
TC 2: 8 units
TC 3:14 units
TC 4:16 units
But the SCORE is only 15 which is very poor. You could play only positive counts with the following ramp:
TC 1: 1 unit
TC 2: 1 unit
TC 3: 2 units
TC 4: 3 units
TC 5: 4 units
And units 7 times the size as in the first ramp. This would double the SCORE.
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April 1st, 2008, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by QFIT
That's a very poor game.
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Because of the 75% penetration? Obviously the H17 is not ideal but what % should one consider "good," "bad" and "ugly?"
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But the SCORE is only 15 which is very poor.
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I'm completely lost on this. Can you point me to some useful reading material?
TIA,
vQ
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April 1st, 2008, 07:58 AM
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H17 is lousy unless you have something that makes up for it like surrender, resplit aces or better penetration.
Don Schlesinger's Blackjack Attack discusses such things in depth.
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April 1st, 2008, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by QFIT
H17 is lousy unless you have something that makes up for it like surrender, resplit aces or better penetration.
Don Schlesinger's Blackjack Attack discusses such things in depth.
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Cool. I'm reading Million Dollar Blackjack (Uston) right now but I'll get that one next.
What's this "score" thing though?
Geeze, I really wish you'd port your software to OS X... =)
vQ
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April 1st, 2008, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by vonQuux
Cool. I'm reading Million Dollar Blackjack (Uston) right now but I'll get that one next.
What's this "score" thing though?
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Standardized Comparison of Risk and Expectation. This is a methodology used to rate Blackjack strategies and games that includes risk. Essentially it is your win rate in dollars per hour assuming 100 hands per hour and a $10,000 bankroll using optimal betting and a risk of ruin of 13.5%. www.card-counting.com/cvcxonlineviewer.htm will calculate SCOREs. It's in the column c-SCORE.
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Geeze, I really wish you'd port your software to OS X... =)
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Well, there are tens of thousands of companies that develop Windows applications and one company that develops OS X. Which makes more sense, 10,000 companies adding OS X support or one company adding support for Windows apps to OS X?  IMO Mac users should be complaining to Apple.
Last edited by QFIT; April 1st, 2008 at 08:27 AM.
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April 1st, 2008, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by QFIT
Standardized Comparison of Risk and Expectation. This is a methodology used to rate Blackjack strategies and games that includes risk. Essentially it is your win rate in dollars per hour assuming 100 hands per hour and a $10,000 bankroll using optimal betting and a risk of ruin of 13.5%. www.card-counting.com/cvcxonlineviewer.htm will calculate SCOREs. It's in the column c-SCORE.
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The more I learn about counting and my super meager bankroll ($2,000, est.), the more I think counting in a real casino is a recipe for disaster. =)
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Originally Posted by QFIT
Well, there are tens of thousands of companies that develop Windows applications and one company that develops OS X. Which makes more sense, 10,000 companies adding OS X support or one company adding support for Windows apps to OS X?  IMO Mac users should be complaining to Apple.
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But why are you comparing developers of Windows applications vs developers of Apple's OS?
There's only one company making Windows and there's only one company making OS X.
There's thousands of people/companies making Windows applications and thousands of people/companies making OS X applications.
Granted, OS X has an estimated 7% market share so I can't reasonably expect someone to port their stuff (unless the $$ or <3 is there) but that's a completely different issue...
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April 1st, 2008, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by vonQuux
But why are you comparing developers of Windows applications vs developers of Apple's OS?
There's only one company making Windows and there's only one company making OS X.
There's thousands of people/companies making Windows applications and thousands of people/companies making OS X applications.
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Because there are actually comparatively very few companies developing OS X software. The vast majority of applications are developed for Windows. 99% of games are Windows apps. How many companies build Windows machines and how many companies build machines that run OS X? Windows is probably the worst operating system ever written. But that's what runs on most PCs and that's what developers develop for.
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