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Old April 1st, 2008, 04:54 PM
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Hello, I was reading about the Hi Lo system in this forum, but I don't quite understand how a High count is better for the players. Why is it good that high cards come out more often? wouldnt it just give the dealer just as much of a advantage??
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Old April 1st, 2008, 04:57 PM
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The advantage is that you have the opportunity to split, double down and get paid 3:2 for a blackjack. That gives the player more chances to make money. Imagine a coin flip where you lose $1 on heads and win $1.50 on tails. It doesn't matter that it's a 50/50 shot, the increased payout makes the game more profitable for you than the other player (dealer).

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Old April 1st, 2008, 06:18 PM
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The biggest advantage that comes when there is an excess of 10s and Aces is that 3/2 payoff for the player's blackjack. Yes, the dealer is also more apt to have a natural 21, but that's only a 1/1 win for the house.

When you remember this fact you can realize just why 6/5 blackjack is so bad for players.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 06:29 PM
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oh, ok. Thank you!
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Old April 1st, 2008, 10:31 PM
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also the insurance bet becomes profitable.
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 12:56 AM
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I thought the biggest advantage to a high count is to know when to stand so that if the house is showing a 2-6(preferably a 6), you can force them to bust more. That way, you can modify the basic strategy chart to fit more 10 values.
If you have a really high count, you would then want to split 10's. Whereas with an even count, you never want to split 10's.
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 01:08 AM
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I thought the biggest advantage to a high count is to know when to stand so that if the house is showing a 2-6(preferably a 6), you can force them to bust more. That way, you can modify the basic strategy chart to fit more 10 values.
If you have a really high count, you would then want to split 10's. Whereas with an even count, you never want to split 10's.
this is one of the ways to you get a little more of an advantage making basic strategy divations ( which are called indicies by the way ) but the main advantage does come from more then inital even money payouts such as getting a blackjack like sonny said. and your chaces of winning double downs like 11 v 6 goes up to and you get to put more money on the table with the extra 10s and so on.

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( which are called indicies by the way )
"Indices", btw. "Indexes" would also be acceptable.
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 05:16 PM
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"Indices", btw. "Indexes" would also be acceptable.
we know what i ment. I'm just not a great speller/grammer type person... need to get a spell check in this posting box here..
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Old April 4th, 2008, 11:15 PM
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we know what i ment. I'm just not a great speller/grammer type person... need to get a spell check in this posting box here..
Don't feel bad, he yelled at me too lol.

How am I doing ER lol?

Yell's the wrong word - sorry. He couldn't have been nicer about it. No more "u"s for "you"s lol.

But I actually was wondering if it's indices or indexes, was even going to look it up, so it's nice to know both are acceptable and I can't go wrong lol.

So thanks for clearing that up for me Rhino.
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