Which is better: 21 or Last Casino?

[jack,jackson]

Im not sure if it was something I smoked, but I could of swore , I seen some subliminal clips In the movie, Especially where they walk Into the Adult store.

A Question to an earlier post. Im curious as well? How was she able to tell the exacts cards missing?

Also during the Aptitude Test In P2. I believe, if you listen closely, they're using some kind of morris code.

[jack,jackson]

Would you Martingale for a chance to win 1 out of 5 hands, to win 10,000$ vs losing around 300,000$? Man, I would be tempted

[zengrifter]

I finally voted. They were both crap. I voted for 21. zg

[beat320]

let the Asian kid bet the single deck shuffle after every hand martingale extravaganza! "he knows the algorithms better" wth were they referring to by algorithms? BS?

[E-town-guy]

I just finished watching the Last Casino on youtube last night and quite honestly don't understand why people thought that movie was any better than 21. In my opinion it was somewhat dull at times and there were some odd things that happened in that movie as well, such as near the end where they win some of the money back using the martingale. It seems strange that a movie which is supposed to be about card counting and how you're not actually "gambling" because you're playing smart would end off using a progression and in fact that is the way they pay the money back. Also, no idea what they mean by asian guy knowing algorithms. Especially since the other guy was deciding how much to bet the whole time.

[Cardcounter]

The last casino on netflix only has a little over 300 people rating the movie and the movie now has a very long wait on it. A lot of people rate movies when they return them on netflix by that alone I know that only a few have rented it. For big movies they can have a 100,000 or more ratings. I don't understand how a movie with less than 400 ratings on it could have such a long wait. Most people have never heard of this movie including me. The first time I heard of it was in this post.

[sagefr0g]

Originally Posted by E-town-guy

............ there were some odd things that happened in that movie as well, such as near the end where they win some of the money back using the martingale. It seems strange that a movie which is supposed to be about card counting and how you're not actually "gambling" because you're playing smart would end off using a progression and in fact that is the way they pay the money back. Also, no idea what they mean by asian guy knowing algorithms................

don't forget they were in a time bind and facing unsurmountable problems so far as getting to casino's in the USA. they didn't know going in that this private joint was dealing an uncountable game. with the time bind facing them it's likely they'd have had to push the gamble on a countable game inorder to get the payback money in time. but with the private joint with the uncountable game what other option did they have than the martingale?

[E-town-guy]

Originally Posted by sagefr0g

don't forget they were in a time bind and facing unsurmountable problems so far as getting to casino's in the USA. they didn't know going in that this private joint was dealing an uncountable game. with the time bind facing them it's likely they'd have had to push the gamble on a countable game inorder to get the payback money in time. but with the private joint with the uncountable game what other option did they have than the martingale?

They were only in a time bind because the movie created it. If they wanted to make the movie more about counting they could have changed the story or the time line they had to get the money back. Also they could have drove to AC in the first place, its not that far a drive from Montreal.

[aslan]

Thanks to one of you, I watched The Last Casino on U-Tube. It was a fun movie, but too much cloak and dagger for me.

The young counters were much worse than I would suspect any trained team to be even on their first outing.

The eye in the sky operation was a little more sophisticated than I suspect most operations are. I mean the use of a waitress with a hidden camera to get a close up of the professor--c'mon! Not in a million years. Not that it's beyond their technology, but they don't need it. They can get pretty good pictures at the table, and if not there, then at the cashier where you pretty much have no way to hide your face.

Anyway, if you're counting, that's all the identity they need. Most good-sized casinos have someone who can count the game and spot your betting patterns. (I don't know about small operations.) And on the basis of seeing you bet like a counter (and this is where I have no experience) I suppose they can ask for a powwow and get whatever picture or ID they might want, and after doing so, bar you from the premises. So you go in the book and get your picture plastered all around. Even there, unless they have your chips, I suppose you could just walk out. OTOH, this was supposed to be back in the old days, so protocols were probably different, and strong-arming was not out of the question.

The martingale was a little stupid for three bright math geniuses. But the brain does not always engage when it comes to young people, so I can see them going out on a limb in a wild and desperate attempt to win a large amount of money in a very short period of time. Who knows? At least the movie shows them almost losing it all. What happened using the martingale was not that unusual considering the amounts they were betting except for the lucky natural just in time.

Spotting the dealer take four cards out of the deck was a nice twist. It was something you might expect in an after hours illegal operation. How she knew it was exactly four cards, I don't know.

The talking their way out was far-fetched. For example it is hard to imagine an illegal after hours gambling joint with uncovered windows facing another tall building from which their illegal activities could be viewed. Remember the sniper supposedly stationed there? No, they were dead meat and no amount of talking was going to get them out of there with money intact.

I hope to see 21 soon.

[sagefr0g]

Originally Posted by aslan

.....

The eye in the sky operation was a little more sophisticated than I suspect most operations are. I mean the use of a waitress with a hidden camera to get a close up of the professor--c'mon! Not in a million years. ..........

i'd have to argue that point with you aslan. the well endowed cocktail waitress didn't have a camera secreted between those luscious melons. but they were the bait that our hapless hero wasn't able to resist raising his head enough to take a peek at so that the eye and the sky was able to get the right angle for a head shot. lol.