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Old April 6th, 2008, 11:17 AM
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What is the best counting system for SD?

Ive been trying to find the best system, have come across a few I like but not sure which one is best. Wongs seem pretty good . Is there any better? Doesnt matter if its level 2 or 3+. I just need to figure out what system is best for my SD play. I prefer one with a very small incriments in betting ( small spread ) .

What are the systems you experts use on SD games ?.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 01:22 AM
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I prefer one with a very small incriments in betting ( small spread ) .
well that could be any system.

I use KO, but it doesn't sound like that is what you're interested in.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 10:38 AM
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Kevin Blackwood claims Hi opt2 gives the best gain in SD.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 12:07 PM
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well that could be any system.

I use KO, but it doesn't sound like that is what you're interested in.
Yea I use Hi / Lo for its simplicity and KO my first 6 months. I need something more advanced and I didnt want to have to resort to trial and error .

I have tooken a couple of the " tests " that tell you which systems are best for your skills and I have gotten Canfield Master and Hi OPTII everytime.

Has anyone had good experiences with these 2 and where I can find more info on them?

The word BEST should be more like " higher advantage " and more efficient.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 02:02 PM
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What is the best counting system for SD?

Ive been trying to find the best system, have come across a few I like but not sure which one is best. Wongs seem pretty good . Is there any better? Doesnt matter if its level 2 or 3+. I just need to figure out what system is best for my SD play. I prefer one with a very small incriments in betting ( small spread ) .

What are the systems you experts use on SD games ?.
I prefer Unbalanced Zen. There should be a sticky thread around here describing a system for using it.
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Old April 8th, 2008, 11:14 AM
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For HI OPT2 try to google Lance Humble or Carl Cooper. I believe they refined it in the 70s
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Old April 8th, 2008, 12:57 PM
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In my experience, for SD and even 2D games I have used the Hi- Opt systems and have seen a profit. The simplicty and gain of this system is ideal for counters who are new and wanting to use a more refined system. If you learn the BSC using even Hi-OptI with an ASC, you can win with a $2500 TBR and $300 PBR. I tell you this from my own personal experience. I have been very happy with the Hi-Opt systems.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 12:35 AM
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The answer, as usual, depends. Indices are very important in single deck, and side-counting aces adds much more value than in shoes. I just use hi-lo for everything, but you can add some EV with other systems.
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