whats the correct bs for such bj rule ???

[beyondbj]

5 decks.

Dealer stands on soft 17.

Player may double on any first two cards.

Dealer does not take a hole card. If dealer has blackjack player will lose only original wager. Additional wagers made due to double or splitting will be returned.

Double after a split allowed.

Player may surrender on any initial two cards, except against a dealer ace. This is equivalent to "early surrender" against a 10, because the player may invoke it before the dealer checks for blackjack.

Resplitting aces not allowed.

Continuous shuffler.



I mainly cant make sure for the following stragery

8 8 vs 10 should spilt or surrender (since it has early surrender, but if dealer blackjack , only original bet is lost , the spilt or double bet will be return.


8 8 vs Ace should spilt ?? if it should spilt , how about we get a 3 , should we double after spilt if got a eleven vs the ACE ??

11 vs 10 should double , then how about 11 vs ACE ? double or hit only??

A A vs ACE is spilt ?

[beyondbj]

also could any one count the correct house edge for the above bj rule ??

[EasyRhino]

Because only the original bet is lost, treat it like a "peek" game.

Generate an early surrender strategy, but then just ignore everything vs Ace.

[k_c]

Originally Posted by beyondbj

also could any one count the correct house edge for the above bj rule ??

5 decks.

Dealer stands on soft 17.

Player may double on any first two cards.

Dealer does not take a hole card. If dealer has blackjack player will lose only original wager. Additional wagers made due to double or splitting will be returned.

Double after a split allowed.

Player may surrender on any initial two cards, except against a dealer ace. This is equivalent to "early surrender" against a 10, because the player may invoke it before the dealer checks for blackjack.

Resplitting aces not allowed.

Continuous shuffler.



I mainly cant make sure for the following stragery

8 8 vs 10 should spilt or surrender (since it has early surrender, but if dealer blackjack , only original bet is lost , the spilt or double bet will be return.


8 8 vs Ace should spilt ?? if it should spilt , how about we get a 3 , should we double after spilt if got a eleven vs the ACE ??

11 vs 10 should double , then how about 11 vs ACE ? double or hit only??

A A vs ACE is spilt ?

HA = .204% (assuming no resplit allowed)

8-8 vs 10 surrender
8-8 vs ace split and do not double 8-3 after splitting
11 vs 10 double
ace-ace vs ace split

k_c

[beyondbj]

sorry there is respilt up to 4 hands

but Ace can only spilt once and got one card

the house edge is 0.15% right ??

[moo321]

Get some indices for that early surrender vs. 10, too. You'll probably be surrendering extra in high counts (hard 17, 13).

[beyondbj]

can anyone tell me why wizardofodds said under this rule , 88 vs dealer 10 is spilt but not surrender , is it a mistake ??

[EasyRhino]

General Secretary Brezhnev, you would not surrender 8,8 if only late surrender were available. But you would surrender it if early surrender were available.

[sagefr0g]

Originally Posted by EasyRhino

General Secretary Brezhnev, you would not surrender 8,8 if only late surrender were available. But you would surrender it if early surrender were available.

right like you would ls 8,8v10 at tc=1 for 6decks17dasls but otherwise split.

[jack,jackson]

Originally Posted by EasyRhino

General Secretary Brezhnev, you would not surrender 8,8 if only late surrender were available. But you would surrender it if early surrender were available.

Correct, but it is nevertheless, a pretty close call. I surrender 88 vs X @ +2,NDAS. +4 DAS) w/L2

If you preferred to Sr 88 vs X at 0 it probably wouldnt cost ya to much.