Counting in British Columbia

[Matt]

Hi everyone, I havent posted in years but the past few weeks recharged my counting batteries after seeing 21, as awful as it was. I have Casino Verite and can play the hi-lo perfectly using indices from -1 to 6.

Living in the Vancouver British Columbia area limits the possible casinos to just one(all the rest are CSM), and its a six deck only casino that is usually very crowded. Wonging and backcounting is the only option with the weak pen.

So I made the trek(1.5 - 2 hrs) to the US where there are plenty of 2 deck and 6 deck games with better. Thing is they're all low roller joints and I stick out like a sore thumb betting just green chips. The cage had to make a call when I went to cash the 250 I had won.

My problem is that it's just unfortunate there arent any better casinos nearby without the hassle of going across the border. So I got to reading and got to learning about advantage craps and the possibilities, since theres a craps table at every casino in town. Anyone out there have any experience at this? I was thinking of starting with this book..
http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Touch-C...7808618&sr=8-2

I figured if Stanford Wong backs this stuff up it must have some substance to it.

To sum it up, I love the idea of taking money from greedy casinos but just feel I'd like to do it more regularly. I love blackjack but the oppurtunity to play just isnt there as easily. I used to play a lot of online poker but it didn't quite quenche my thirst. Anyone else relate?

Also, does anyone know of a good betting camo strategy for 2 deck BJ. I was shamelessly playing...with no camo and upping my bets and lowering them exactly per the count. Any help? Nothing TOO drastic though

TC
+1 = $5
+2 = 2 x $10
+3 = 2 x $15
+4 = 2 x $25
+5 = 2 x $30
+6 = 2 x $40
+7 = 2 x $50

Thanks guys

[moo321]

To my knowledge, there is very little support among experts for dice control in most situations.

[zengrifter]

Also, does anyone know of a good betting camo strategy for 2 deck BJ. I was shamelessly playing...with no camo and upping my bets and lowering them exactly per the count. Any help? Nothing TOO drastic though

TC
+1 = $5
+2 = 2 x $10
+3 = 2 x $15
+4 = 2 x $25
+5 = 2 x $30
+6 = 2 x $40
+7 = 2 x $50

Thanks guys

The easiest extra value-added you can add is to sit at 1st base and keycard the Aces, so you'll frequently make max bets even with neg counts. zg

[Tom007]

Originally Posted by zengrifter

The easiest extra value-added you can add is to sit at 1st base and keycard the Aces, so you'll frequently make max bets even with neg counts. zg

How do you key card aces? can you explain? Or can you direct me to a link?

[Brock Windsor]

Originally Posted by Matt

I was thinking of starting with this book..
http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Touch-C...7808618&sr=8-2
I figured if Stanford Wong backs this stuff up it must have some substance to it.

I have that book and would not recommend it. Scoblete seems much more a gambling writer than a gambler and some of it reads like voodoo to me. The easiest edge to overcome is pass/don't bets with full odds so why would they have you bet anything else? Except maybe for the fact that they want you to have more small winning sessions before the big loss...like any voodoo system. Also their 5count strategy is almost certainly negative expectation unless the comps are excellent. Just find tables that take high odds. I believe in the possibility of Dice Control and I also respect that Stanford Wong acknowledges it. Wong on Dice is probably a better first read though I have yet to read it. I have heard mathematically it is far superior to anything else, and any advantage you have must be quantifiable.
BW

[Matt]

Originally Posted by zengrifter

The easiest extra value-added you can add is to sit at 1st base and keycard the Aces, so you'll frequently make max bets even with neg counts. zg

ZG, would you recommend "Blackjack Ace Prediction: The Art Of Advanced Location Strategies For The Casino Game Of Twenty-one" by David McDowell. The few reviews at http://www.amazon.com/Blackjack-Ace-...7848341&sr=8-1 arent very good though. Is this similar to the techniques described in Breaking Vegas?

Anyone have an opinion on the QFIT CV/Shuffle Ace sequencing software?

[Diver]

Originally Posted by Matt

So I made the trek(1.5 - 2 hrs) to the US where there are plenty of 2 deck and 6 deck games with better. Thing is they're all low roller joints and I stick out like a sore thumb betting just green chips. The cage had to make a call when I went to cash the 250 I had won.

You can play green chip and higher on good DD games at Silver Reef near Bellingham. Dealers there commented about some very high rollers that come by with some regularity, even requesting certain dealers. There isn't a high roller pit per se.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Diver

You can play green chip and higher on good DD games at Silver Reef near Bellingham. Dealers there commented about some very high rollers that come by with some regularity, even requesting certain dealers. There isn't a high roller pit per se.

Thanks Diver, I'll keep that in mind. Are the rules Dbl 10,11 NDAS?

How about the Slo Pitch Pub & Casino in Bellingham? It looks completely vulnerable the last time I checked it out.

[Diver]

Originally Posted by Matt

Thanks Diver, I'll keep that in mind. Are the rules Dbl 10,11 NDAS?

How about the Slo Pitch Pub & Casino in Bellingham? It looks completely vulnerable the last time I checked it out.

H17, Double any first two cards, DAS, decent pen. It's actually a nice place to play. Minimums are low $5 at DD until late in the afternoon, so it can sometime be more crowed than you'd wish. But penetration is good. I haven't checked out anything else in the area other than the Skagitt Valley Casino which is D9 and has bad pen.

[la_dee_daa]

hey if you know of a casino that is 18 or 19+ could you give me a heads up. im in the same boat.

If you get the right dealer's at that casino you can get good pen though around a deck cut off or so. also if you play in the morning you can get heads up games at $10 tables and $15 talbes.