Advice To The Noobs (Including Me)

[vonQuux]

The individual elements of counting (counting, keeping RC/TC in your skull, playing BS, using indices, proper betting, etc.) are difficult but not ridiculously so.

Trying to do all of them at a table, on the other hand, is soooooo much harder than any of the movies or training DVDs make it out to be.

I would imagine this becomes apparent to anyone practicing for a few weeks. This message is not for them. This is for all the people who just got here after seeing 21, thinking they're going to knock over the tables this weekend after studying for like 4 hours.

NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Ouch. My head hurts...

vQ

PS: My cap is off to anyone who actually does this profitably. Way off.

[moo321]

Originally Posted by vonQuux

The individual elements of counting (counting, keeping RC/TC in your skull, playing BS, using indices, proper betting, etc.) are difficult but not ridiculously so.

Trying to do all of them at a table, on the other hand, is soooooo much harder than any of the movies or training DVDs make it out to be.

I would imagine this becomes apparent to anyone practicing for a few weeks. This message is not for them. This is for all the people who just got here after seeing 21, thinking they're going to knock over the tables this weekend after studying for like 4 hours.

NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Ouch. My head hurts...

vQ

PS: My cap is off to anyone who actually does this profitably. Way off.

It's just a matter of drilling. You'll have it down before you know it. I accidentally count the flops I see in Hold'em nowadays.

[la_dee_daa]

yep takes a lot of practice to be able to do everything at the table. regardless how fast you learn to count down a deck its meaningless without all the other stuff take at least a few months of solid practice.

there is also a mental/emmotional strength you need which can't be learnt in practice to handle losses and forcing yourself to put out big bets or hold big bets back either or. this is not as easy as it sounds for all of you who saw 21 you want to make $20 per hour of play you need to play tens of thousands of hands better upwards of $100 on hands at times.

you can prepare numbers calculating ror and betting spreads all you want and thinking its safe only like 3% chance of losing everything or whatever but when you drop $500 in a few hands and then lose another $500 a few hands later it just isn't the same eh?

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by la_dee_daa

you want to make $20 per hour of play you need to play tens of thousands of hands better upwards of $100 on hands at times.

you can prepare numbers calculating ror and betting spreads all you want and thinking its safe only like 3% chance of losing everything or whatever but when you drop $500 in a few hands and then lose another $500 a few hands later it just isn't the same eh?

No biggie lol but alot of your/anyone's fears are in your mind. You could make $20/hr and never make a bet over $100. You could have a very low ROR and never bet more than $100, which wouldn't happen very often in the first place, and still make that. In which case losing $1000 in several hands, while of course possible, would be extremely unlikely. Kind of thing. With a total bankroll less than $10K.

Rare events are possible obviously but even God can't change probability.

At least you know what to expect this way.

Like you say, easy to say, harder to do lol.